Let's Talk About Changes to Policing

[TheRedComet]

Most cops are decent folk trying to make a living.

But the institution itself as it has evolved over the past 50 years is flawed and problematic. The entire idea of policing in modern America is broken.

It needs major reform.

They are civil servants, not Demi-Gods.

[FreeAndClear]

@altair1013

@FreeAndClear

They are not constantly on tv. Their cameras are subject to internal review and are publically released if and when their departments or their bosses feel it’s appropriate

Incorrect. If there is a controversy, the public demands to see the video and a judge orders it released. It belongs to the people, not the “bosses.”

That’s a lot of steps for most scrutinized profession.

The judge doesn’t need to order it.

And yet a court order is needed even though it belongs to the people

A court order…. Amazing

[FreeAndClear]

@altair1013

@FreeAndClear

It may have been this thing you completely made up.

Hahaha. You lie. You are free to apologize if you are man enough.
What does your research show?

A 2018 survey by the Pew Research Center found that the majority of both police and the public favor body cameras,

No it’s something you made up. That’s why you wrote “may be”

What is the reason why the police favor body cameras? Is it the reason you made up or is it listed in the pew survey from six years ago?

I will gladly apologize if you can back up your imagination.

[Roxiebelle]

@Gaius

That’s a load of crap. (unless you’re an Uvalde cop or on the take with the local mob.) It’s a criminal’s dream.

ICAM! I back the blue and give them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. For every bad cop there are thousands of good ones, and I really hate leftist attacks on law enforcement officers on the beat.

Wearing a body cam at all times is all the change needed. IMO

[altair1013]

@WuWei

@altair1013

They are the highest scrutinized profession in Planet Earth.

No they are not.

Really? Who else has to carry a camera with them on the job to film their every encounter? Who else it hated by liberals and the media? Who else is immediatly put on the news if they make a mistake or perceived mistake? Who else can be fired for doing nothing wrong (Darren Wilson).
Anyone come to mind?

[FreeAndClear]

@altair1013

Who else is immediatly put on the news if they make a mistake or perceived mistake?

They make mistakes constantly. The flood of information doesn’t mean that everything is reported. It’s not even close. The egregiousness of some of their “mistakes” shows that

[TheRedComet]

Soldiers around the world have been dealing with enhanced scrutiny since the first Hague Convention was signed. And look at the scrutiny pilots, whether civilian or military, have to live with.

Enhanced responsibilities and powers come with enhanced scrutiny. That’s the way it works.

[TheRedComet]

Why doesn’t the suspect, who is merely accused of a crime not convicted, not get that same benefit of the doubt?

[BlueHeron]

I remember seeing where an acorn dropped on a police cruiser and the cops started scooting up the neighborhood. Cop was even screaming that he was “hit”! It was an acorn, falling from a tree.

[STODR]

I remember that

[Roxiebelle]

@TheRedComet

Why doesn’t the suspect, who is merely accused of a crime not convicted, not get that same benefit of the doubt?

It’s up to you who you give the benefit of the doubt to, I give it to the police officers until it’s proven they don’t deserve it. I am not bashing law enforcement which seems to be required for Dem voters these days. If the officer follows the letter of the law, does their job as they are trained and required to do I have no problem at all. sue me!

[WuWei]

@altair1013

@WuWei

@altair1013

They are the highest scrutinized profession in Planet Earth.

No they are not.

Really? Who else has to carry a camera with them on the job to film their every encounter? Who else it hated by liberals and the media? Who else is immediatly put on the news if they make a mistake or perceived mistake? Who else can be fired for doing nothing wrong (Darren Wilson).
Anyone come to mind?

Bank tellers, among dozens of others.

Who gets to “forget” to turn them on or break them and get away with it?

Who violates rights with every contact?

Who gets privilege the minute they walk into a courtroom?

Don’t worry, their day is coming.

[WuWei]

While I’m thinking about it, who else can order a grown man to “sit” like a dog and pull on him if he refuses?

Who else can make up laws on the spot for officer safety?

Who else can disarm and seize an arm for “officer safety”?

[Samm]

@altair1013

@TheRedComet

The point is that cops shouldn’t have a free fire ROE on American streets.

They do not. They are the highest scrutinized profession in Planet Earth. But when someone points a firearm at them, they are allowed to fire before they are killed. As it should be.

Then why was officer Byrd not held responsible for the death of Ashley Babbitt? She had no weapon of any kind and was threatening no one.

[TheRedComet]

Politics.

[WuWei]

Psychologist behind the controversial ‘Stanford Prison Experiment’ dies at 91...

Zimbardo has passed.

[gooddad409]

@Samm

@altair1013

@TheRedComet

The point is that cops shouldn’t have a free fire ROE on American streets.

They do not. They are the highest scrutinized profession in Planet Earth. But when someone points a firearm at them, they are allowed to fire before they are killed. As it should be.

Then why was officer Byrd not held responsible for the death of Ashley Babbitt? She had no weapon of any kind and was threatening no one.

Political.