Laura Ingraham today said on show own research backs Trump's claim that more youths died from the flu than covid-19

Deaths this year to date for flu this year in USA ages 0-18 = 434

VS.

Deaths this year to date for Covid-19 this year in USA ages 0-24 = 429

That Ms. Ingraham said was on the CDC site. I believe she also mentioned something about much more hospitalizations with the flu outnumbering this virus too.

It is no wonder why the bulk of the media is staying silent on this.

What say you?

P.S. Here is Johnson/Johnson making a similar claim…

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Yep. Polio was a young persons disease. COVID is an old persons disease. Although not denied by the media, iit certainly isn’t made a point by most. Spread the fear. Concentrate the blame.

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We are living in the age of propaganda science. Drive people by fear.

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Assuming lower covid-19 mortality for young persons, this says what about transmission or lasting health consequences?

Just shut up and put on your mask…got it? …it’ll be reexamined after the election. :sunglasses:

I don’t know about comparing the 2020 stats on that. Of course both show what has happened this year with mitigation, including school shutdowns, but a better comparison for the flu might be against a typical year, or even just against 2019. See that how stacks up and then try to extrapolate the cocid deaths without mitigation for that demo.

And the flu had a 2 1/2 month start on covid before any mitigation kicked in.

True on head start, according to the CDC, in the United States, flu season occurs in the fall and winter . While influenza viruses circulate year-round, most of the time flu activity peaks between December and February , but activity can last as late as May.

The CDC also said this: The final data on flu season 2019/2020 has been released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), as COVID-19 continues to spread throughout the United States.

Between October 1, 2019 and April 4, 2020, the flu resulted in:

  • 39 to 56 million illnesses
  • 410,000 to 740,000 hospitalizations
  • 24,000 to 62,000 deaths
  • 169 pediatric deaths

And then this article said this about 2018-2019 flu season:

What About the Flu Shot?

The flu vaccine that was created for the 2018-2019 flu season turned out to be only 29% at the end of the season.

Flu vaccines are made each year to protect against three or four different kinds of flu virus. Experts choose which viruses to build the vaccine against based off recent trends in previous years. They create a shot that will seemingly fight the most prominent strains in that year.

The effectiveness of the flu vaccine is difficult to predict since the virus tends to mutate during the year. Vaccines against infectious diseases are usually not labeled successful unless proven 90% effective. The flu vaccine is held to a different standard due to the changing virus and mutations. According to STAT News, the flu vaccine usually averages around 40% effectiveness. While that may not seem high, even a relatively ineffective flu shot can help millions.

The 2018-2019 flu season started out at an estimated, “49 percent during the period that H1N1 was dominant.” Then, with the second wave in February, an unexpected strain of H3N2 started spreading.

Typically the flu season spikes in the winter and fizzles out. After the unexpected second wave in 2019, the effectiveness of the flu vaccine dropped down to 9% during the spring. This brings the season’s end effectiveness rating to just 29%.

How Many People Caught the Flu this Season?

Despite its low effectiveness, the flu season was relatively mild compared to previous flu seasons.

The CDC estimated that between 37.4 million and 42.9 million people contracted the flu during the 2018-2019 season. Those cases led to between 531,000 and 647,000 hospitalization and 36,400-61,200 deaths.

These numbers may seem high, but when stacked against previous seasons reported deaths were at a decline. For example, during the 2017-2018 flu season the death toll was reported to be around 80,000. Comparatively, this past season’s toll was between 36,400 and 61,200.

The hospitalization and death toll for children was also lower this year compared to previous seasons.

With these numbers in mind, despite the low vaccine effectiveness year to year, influenza experts still urge the population to get a vaccine against the flu.

The flu vaccine not only helps prevent hundreds of thousands of illnesses every year, but it increases a region’s herd immunity against the viruses. According to Dr. Kathleen Neuzil, director of the Center for Vaccine Development at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, “that’s still 30 percent of people who were not spreading the flu to anyone else.”

The vaccine helps protect those that receive it and the surrounding population that doesn’t. With less people that can get infected, the virus has a harder time spreading. A possible outbreak can instead become a small spike in cases with herd immunity.

Flu shots are recommended for everyone over six months. Recent studies also showed once again that the flu vaccine is even safe for pregnant women.

Officials say despite low effectiveness year after year, the vaccine is still, “worthwhile since it works against some strains, and it likely prevented 40,000 to 90,000 hospitalizations over the winter flu season.” Receiving a seasonal flu vaccine every year remains the best way to protect yourself and others around you against the flu.

This last point in bold is rather profound. After all, covid-19 has no vaccine yet!

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That is a fantastic point that I didn’t even consider in my argument above.

Thanks.