Labor shortage in America. A viable solution? Here are a couple

[Guilds]

@Toll_Collector

Yes they will. Just like landscapers, you just have to pay them more. The conditions have to be better as well. Oh, define good wages.

Farm workers and landscapers are very different jobs.
See link above.

[Guilds]

@gooddad409

Most small farmers in America ARE Americans. Amazing some of the things libs spew!

They do not pick their own crops.

Amazing some of the ignorance cons spew.

[Bosun]

No stress. Sorry.

[Bosun]

Maybe some progressive nose picking activists are causing trouble
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[Janet_Miller]

“Many of these jobs aren’t being filled because people do not want to risk covid exposure”.

How do they plan to avoid it staying home?

Might a working spouse bring it home?

Grocery courier?

Delivery rep?

Kids hanging out with friends?

Are these individuals living in a protective bubble? Do they believe the only risk of death comes from covid?

Staying home as a parent may be a good strategy for the short term, but social security, other retirement savings are contingent on years worked.

[Janet_Miller]

Worked for a company that raised its wages & this is the extent it helped voluntary attrition—0%.

Much as some fuss about immigrants, they’re not usually the ones kvetching the wages are too low, or the days or hours all wrong, can’t work evenings or weekends, can’t do hazardous duty, can’t work entry level or for under a certain dollar amount.

They’re in there working those jobs that don’t “pay enough”, those shifts and days many natives won’t take.

[Bosun]

No one thinks that far. The slackers have their hands out demanding government entitlements.

[biggestal99]

@Bosun

Maybe Costco attracts good employees

Let me spell it out for you.

Doe ray me.

Allan

[Smyrna]

@Guilds

They do not pick their own crops.

Amazing some of the ignorance cons spew.

You’re wrong. Cotton, corn and soybeans are not picked, they are harvested with machines and it’s mostly the small farmers that do it.

[Janet_Miller]

A friend who has since passed away lost her health insurance when her husband suddenly passed.

She had been a homemaker for a time, and when she herself became disabled from kidney failure was forced onto an exchange plan.

Not sure if her working only sporadically meant she couldn’t get Medicare as a disabled woman, but the exchange plan sucked wind.

No one looks at the long term consequence of unemployment (obviously those earning enough with one working spouse wouldn’t have to, and even they, like my aunt, may be disheartened to find they didn’t work long enough to collect any Social Security).

No one is thinking beyond Covid—we probably take more chances dying in traffic going to & from work than from covid, & no one is looking at the potential cons of long term Unemployment, just making excuses & collecting those handouts.

[Toll_Collector]

@TommyLucchese

This is why rapidly Googling is the worst way to learn anything. It extends unemployment up to a maximum of 52 weeks (it’s normally 26 at most). Now if I was in the service industry and was laid off in March or April of 2020. . .

I can’t speak for other states, but here in NJ people that exhausted their extended benefits transition to pandemic emergency unemployment compensation, which expires this September 4.

[Toll_Collector]

@DisturbedGuy

@Janet_Miller

Perhaps the one job household is making a comeback?

Some jobs, after commuter costs, child care costs, expenses for work related apparel are paid, is there much left over?

One stay at home mother or father could get away from the grief and aggravation of the outside job & maybe the second vehicle could be sold, which would also eliminate expenses for it like insurance, gas and repair costs.

May not be a permanent strategy, at some point returning to work may be a possibility. Have an aunt who never returned to work after her first child came into the world, and when she very recently inquired how much was available to her in Social Security benefits, she was disheartened to hear 0.00 as she hadn’t worked enough years to put into the system.

But maybe after managing to live on less for awhile and analyzing the costs of that second income, at least while kids are in the single digit years staying home may be a strategy for one parent.

I do think this is a big part of what we are seeing. In my area, good daycare is $150 a week per child. If you are making $10 an hour, you are basically working for nothing. All 4 fast food restaurants in my town have had $13 an hour on their street signs for 3+ months. Even that has not been enough to fill these jobs.

I see it here too. There has been a now hiring sign at my Shoprite for what seems like forever. Offering 13.50 I think. A sign for 15 dollars an hour to dry cars at the car wash. It’s been up for weeks now. Now hiring signs are everywhere I look.

[DisturbedGuy]

@Toll_Collector

@DisturbedGuy

@Janet_Miller

Perhaps the one job household is making a comeback?

Some jobs, after commuter costs, child care costs, expenses for work related apparel are paid, is there much left over?

One stay at home mother or father could get away from the grief and aggravation of the outside job & maybe the second vehicle could be sold, which would also eliminate expenses for it like insurance, gas and repair costs.

May not be a permanent strategy, at some point returning to work may be a possibility. Have an aunt who never returned to work after her first child came into the world, and when she very recently inquired how much was available to her in Social Security benefits, she was disheartened to hear 0.00 as she hadn’t worked enough years to put into the system.

But maybe after managing to live on less for awhile and analyzing the costs of that second income, at least while kids are in the single digit years staying home may be a strategy for one parent.

I do think this is a big part of what we are seeing. In my area, good daycare is $150 a week per child. If you are making $10 an hour, you are basically working for nothing. All 4 fast food restaurants in my town have had $13 an hour on their street signs for 3+ months. Even that has not been enough to fill these jobs.

I see it here too. There has been a now hiring sign at my Shoprite for what seems like forever. Offering 13.50 I think. A sign for 15 dollars an hour to dry cars at the car wash. It’s been up for weeks now. Now hiring signs are everywhere I look.

It sure does seem like there are more jobs to fill than those collecting UE benefits. I think a sizeable portion of people have opted out if the workforce and are getting by on less money.

[TommyLucchese]

@Toll_Collector

I can’t speak for other states, but here in NJ people that exhausted their extended benefits transition to pandemic emergency unemployment compensation, which expires this September 4.

Extended benefits are thirteen weeks. PEUC is thirteen weeks. Plus twenty six, that’s still fifty two weeks.

[Toll_Collector]

@Guilds

@Toll_Collector

Well, we’ll never know because agriculture will never be left to Americans only. To say they are jobs Americans won’t do is just an excuse to keep cheap labor. It’s not reality. They’re jobs Americans won’t do for the money being offered to do them.

It is not the money…it is the work.

We've Already Learned That Losing Immigrant Farm Workers Is A Disaster | HuffPost Latest News

Nowhere in that article does it mention what they were being paid. That is the top motivating factor. This, from your article…

“It really showed no comparison,” Spencer, who lives in Birmingham, told HuffPost. “The American workers could not do what the Mexican workers did. They were physically and mentally incapable.

Ever unload trucks for UPS? There are a lot of people physically and mentally incapable. Until they find the one’s are aren’t. I did that back in 1985, and the only reason I worked that job is because it paid 8 dollars an hour.

You’d be surprised at how mentally capable people are when the pay is higher. Most Americans would rather work that a supermarket than in agriculture if the pay is going to be similar.

[Toll_Collector]

@TommyLucchese

@Toll_Collector

I can’t speak for other states, but here in NJ people that exhausted their extended benefits transition to pandemic emergency unemployment compensation, which expires this September 4.

Extended benefits are thirteen weeks. PEUC is thirteen weeks. Plus twenty six, that’s still fifty two weeks.

N.J. won’t qualify for extended unemployment benefits. Here’s what will happen to your claim. - nj.com

Second paragraph.

[TommyLucchese]

@Toll_Collector

Second paragraph.

Yes that is exactly what I’m talking about. PEUC was created in spring 2020. You still only get fifty two weeks of unemployment between state unemployment, extended benefits and PEUC in pretty much all states.

[Toll_Collector]

@Guilds

@Toll_Collector

Yes they will. Just like landscapers, you just have to pay them more. The conditions have to be better as well. Oh, define good wages.

Farm workers and landscapers are very different jobs.
See link above.

My point was in comparison to paying Mexicans. The Americans are getting paid more.

[Toll_Collector]

@TommyLucchese

Yes that is exactly what I’m talking about. PEUC was created in spring 2020. You still only get fifty two weeks of unemployment between state unemployment, extended benefits and PEUC in pretty much all states.

You did see where it said September 4th, right?

[TommyLucchese]

@Toll_Collector

You did see where it said September 4th, right?

Yes. You’re still eligible for it. That does not mean you get it forever. PEUC is limited to thirteen weeks. You don’t get more than fifty two weeks of unemployment in any state except Montana and often significantly less in southern and southwestern states.

I’m unsure what I’m not explaining correctly.