Isn’t it great a judge finally tells COVID vaccine jabbers to put up or shut up?

So now you seem to indicate that the vaccine and resources used to distribute them grown on trees?

Do you know the meaning of “effect” in the following sentence:

A massive influx of COVID infected illegal entrants does in fact have an effect on the need for vaccines.

Fess up to it, your theory is absurd.

JWK

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I don’t care what the world thinks. I don’t understand why you’re quoting me when its not relevant to the discussion. I do think its a little weird, but we all have our vices.

I’m saying there’s no evidence that they 1) believed the mandate would ruin lives (your original claim) or 2) that ruining lives was their desired outcome.

It’s not my theory we’re discussing. Its the poster’s theory that Biden sabotaged the vaccine distribution. The idea that he did so via his immigration policies is absurd because there’s no connection for reasons I’ve already stated numerous times in this thread. If you or the poster want to provide evidence that the migrant crisis is causing shortages of vaccines, then please do. Based on what I’ve seen in the news, this is not the case and in fact we have more vaccines then people wanting them because of the sabotage from the right wing media.

My goodness. I was just trying to help spread the word. Have you changed your thinking on the matter?

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, and helping the poor, our socialist revolutionaries have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

You may not want to discuss your theory anymore, now that I have proven it to be absurd.

Fess up to your theory being absurd and move on.

JWK

Now you’re just being dishonest. And no I haven’t changed my thinking.

Are we talking about the same thread? What theory is that?

The two theories I’m aware of being discussed here are:

  1. Vaccine mandates are intended to ruin people’s lives.
  2. Biden sabotaged the vaccine distribution via his immigration policies.

The jbiden Super Spreader Policy all the while lecturing folks about get your vaccinations or else. :roll_eyes:

You can’t make this crap up.

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Do you have proof that migrants are the primary cause of Covid-19 continuing to be pandemic in this country or are you just assuming based on the right-wing trope that immigrants are dirty disease carriers?

The vaccinated individual who got sick in my circle of acquaintance recovered at home.

“But still silly vaccines help.”

I’m not understanding some of the fuss about the small percentage of breakthrough infections—most of whose sufferers had mild symptoms. The fuss is coming from other posters, but I gotta run after this.

Anyone who gets a flu shot is told up front it’s based on last year’s most common strains, and it won’t protect against every strain there is.

IIRC HPV vax targets the three strains that are most linked to cervical cancer, and there are more than three strains. It won’t necessarily prevent the patient from having an abnormal pap.

It appears some don’t want to acknowledge the reality that

Unvaccinated individuals are crowding ICUs, preventing patients with other needs from getting care, and

Vaccinated individuals suffering breakthrough infections aren’t the majority of vaccinated patients, and they’re less likely to require hospital care.

That’s good. I’m not anti vax. I’ve gotten the shots.

My question is: how many have been vaxxed, but are still out doing day to day life things because it’s not Covid, it’s just a minor cold.

If that percentage is very high you could make the argument that more people are exposed due to the vaccination rather than less. Granted it’s an unknown.

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His point was there is no shortage of vaccines despite the illegals. So he is 100% correct that illegals didn’t effect our ability to get shots in arms.

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In other words you still agree with the following?

“From each according to their ability to pay, to each who needs help living a decent life.” ___ fallenturtle

If so, that explains plenty of your posts.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

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No shortage of vaccines is irrelevant. A massive influx of COVID infected illegal entrants does in fact have an effect on the need for vaccines. Are you suggesting the costs of vaccines and administering them grows on trees?

:roll_eyes:

My comment was 100 percent accurate. And, fallenturtle’s theory, that illegal entrants are not having an effect on vaccines is absurd.

JWK

When it comes to healthcare and helping the needy, our Democrat Party Leadership has no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens who have invaded America’s borders.

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Did the existence of these illegals impede putting vaccines into arms? A simple yes or no will suffice.

:roll_eyes:

See:

Mass. DPH reports 3,741 new breakthrough COVID-19 cases, 46 more deaths among vaccinated residents

W.Va. Officials Say ‘Breakthrough’ COVID Cases On The Rise

“Gov. Jim Justice announced Monday that, over the past eight weeks, there has been a 26% increase in new breakthrough cases, a 21% increase in breakthrough cases requiring hospitalization and a 25% increase in breakthrough deaths.”

Recent data shows 18.5% of new Covid-19 cases in New Jersey are fully vaccinated individuals, governor says

And in PA we find 6% Of Pennsylvania COVID-19 "

“The Tri-State region is doing better than many other parts of the country, but cases are climbing here too.”

It is common sense that COVID is here to stay for a very long time. We need to learn to live with it by treating it, and screw the endless vaccine crap which is ruining our lives and businesses with little to nothing in return.

JWK

:roll_eyes:

Are you suggesting the costs of vaccines and administering them grows on trees?

Sure it may have cost more money. I was under the impression we ended up with a surplus of vaccines. Is there a shortage today that I am not aware of?

It seems your argument isn’t that illegals obstructed vaccines but instead added incremental cost. Ok. I’m fine with that but that wasn’t your original claim.