Isn’t it great a judge finally tells COVID vaccine jabbers to put up or shut up?

johnwk2 · 2021-10-07T18:13:00.445Z

I see you are still theorizing.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:13:39.969Z

Oldandtired:

Getting personal now. Seems most leftist can dish it out put can’t take the same in return.

You’re defending a poster who literally has an old quote from me in several of his posts in this thread.

Oldandtired · 2021-10-07T18:14:30.604Z

It is funny and sad that you actually believe the government cares. They only care about getting reelected so they can have more power and more money flowing into their accounts.

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:14:46.422Z

Oldandtired:

Sure they were. So were the lock downs and now the firings because people refuse the vaccination.

Do you know what “intentional” means?

Oldandtired · 2021-10-07T18:16:31.926Z

Seems you have some sort of problem than. Not my problem or the posters.

johnwk2 · 2021-10-07T18:16:41.093Z

fallenturtle:

Oldandtired:

Getting personal now. Seems most leftist can dish it out put can’t take the same in return.

You’re defending a poster who literally has an old quote from me in several of his posts in this thread.

And I thought you wanted the world to know your basic philosophy is expressed as follows:

“From each according to their ability to pay, to each who needs help living a decent life.” ___ fallenturtle

Have you changed your thinking?

JWK

Oldandtired · 2021-10-07T18:18:00.899Z

Now we are pulling out the you don’t know what it means card. Fact is the government only cares about two things and one of them is not you.

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:18:43.165Z

johnwk2:

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

A massive influx of COVID infected illegal entrants does in fact have an effect on the need for vaccines.

Why must you make stuff up?

I’m not making anything up.

You did write: Migrants coming into the country is its own issue.

And? Its true. There are many problems stemming from a surge of migrants wanting to come into the US. A shortage of vaccines isn’t one of them.

johnwk2:

The truth is, a massive influx of COVID infected illegal entrants does in fact have an effect on the need for vaccines. So, your theory that illegal entrants are not having an effect on vaccines is absurd.

What effect? We don’t have a shortage.

johnwk2 · 2021-10-07T18:19:00.167Z

fallenturtle:

Oldandtired:

Sure they were. So were the lock downs and now the firings because people refuse the vaccination.

Do you know what “intentional” means?

Are you saying the NYC vaccine mandate, knowing it would inflict misery upon the lives of people and business owners, was not intentional?

JWK

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:22:46.398Z

Oldandtired:

It is funny and sad that you actually believe the government cares. They only care about getting reelected so they can have more power and more money flowing into their accounts.

The government isn’t a monolith. There are people in the government who care about people. There are people in the government who care about padding their wallets. There are people in the government who care about getting more power. There are people in the government who desire all 3 and there are people in the government that prioritize these things in different orders.

Yes, I believe the government does want to stop the pandemic. Whether its because they actually care about human lives or because it will help the economy and their chances of reelection doesn’t really matter if the result is the same.

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:23:17.419Z

Oldandtired:

Seems you have some sort of problem than. Not my problem or the posters.

lol, okay buddy. Have a nice day.

johnwk2 · 2021-10-07T18:23:54.200Z

fallenturtle:

And? Its true. There are many problems stemming from a surge of migrants wanting to come into the US. A shortage of vaccines isn’t one of them.

So now you seem to indicate that the vaccine and resources used to distribute them grown on trees?

Do you know the meaning of “effect” in the following sentence:

A massive influx of COVID infected illegal entrants does in fact have an effect on the need for vaccines.

Fess up to it, your theory is absurd.

JWK

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:25:14.770Z

johnwk2:

fallenturtle:

Oldandtired:

Getting personal now. Seems most leftist can dish it out put can’t take the same in return.

You’re defending a poster who literally has an old quote from me in several of his posts in this thread.

And I thought you wanted the world to know your basic philosophy is expressed as follows:

“From each according to their ability to pay, to each who needs help living a decent life.” ___ fallenturtle

Have you changed your thinking?

JWK

I don’t care what the world thinks. I don’t understand why you’re quoting me when its not relevant to the discussion. I do think its a little weird, but we all have our vices.

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:27:34.017Z

johnwk2:

fallenturtle:

Oldandtired:

Sure they were. So were the lock downs and now the firings because people refuse the vaccination.

Do you know what “intentional” means?

Are you saying the NYC vaccine mandate, knowing it would inflict misery upon the lives of people and business owners, was not intentional?

JWK

I’m saying there’s no evidence that they 1) believed the mandate would ruin lives (your original claim) or 2) that ruining lives was their desired outcome.

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:32:12.629Z

johnwk2:

fallenturtle:

And? Its true. There are many problems stemming from a surge of migrants wanting to come into the US. A shortage of vaccines isn’t one of them.

So now you seem to indicate that the vaccine and resources used to distribute them grown on trees?

Do you know the meaning of “effect” in the following sentence:

A massive influx of COVID infected illegal entrants does in fact have an effect on the need for vaccines.

Fess up to it, your theory is absurd.

JWK

It’s not my theory we’re discussing. Its the poster’s theory that Biden sabotaged the vaccine distribution. The idea that he did so via his immigration policies is absurd because there’s no connection for reasons I’ve already stated numerous times in this thread. If you or the poster want to provide evidence that the migrant crisis is causing shortages of vaccines, then please do. Based on what I’ve seen in the news, this is not the case and in fact we have more vaccines then people wanting them because of the sabotage from the right wing media.

johnwk2 · 2021-10-07T18:33:08.951Z

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

fallenturtle:

Oldandtired:

Getting personal now. Seems most leftist can dish it out put can’t take the same in return.

You’re defending a poster who literally has an old quote from me in several of his posts in this thread.

And I thought you wanted the world to know your basic philosophy is expressed as follows:

“From each according to their ability to pay, to each who needs help living a decent life.” ___ fallenturtle

Have you changed your thinking?

JWK

I don’t care what the world thinks. I don’t understand why you’re quoting me when its not relevant to the discussion. I do think its a little weird, but we all have our vices.

My goodness. I was just trying to help spread the word. Have you changed your thinking on the matter?

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, and helping the poor, our socialist revolutionaries have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

johnwk2 · 2021-10-07T18:36:53.163Z

fallenturtle:

It’s not my theory we’re discussing.

You may not want to discuss your theory anymore, now that I have proven it to be absurd.

Fess up to your theory being absurd and move on.

JWK

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:49:30.199Z

johnwk2:

My goodness. I was just trying to help spread the word. Have you changed your thinking on the matter?

Now you’re just being dishonest. And no I haven’t changed my thinking.

fallenturtle · 2021-10-07T18:57:53.747Z

johnwk2:

You may not want to discuss your theory anymore, now that I have proven it to be absurd.

Fess up to your theory being absurd and move on.

Are we talking about the same thread? What theory is that?

The two theories I’m aware of being discussed here are:

Vaccine mandates are intended to ruin people’s lives.
Biden sabotaged the vaccine distribution via his immigration policies.

gooddad409 · 2021-10-07T21:12:27.566Z

Oldandtired:

Illegals are spreading the disease and jbiden is knowingly calling them to the United States and spreading them across the country. Seems jbiden is the cause of a lot of misery and deaths.

The jbiden Super Spreader Policy all the while lecturing folks about get your vaccinations or else.

You can’t make this crap up.