Is the Biden plan to balloon our population a good idea?

Investigations into most anyone but Trump during the last 4 years now make me think of delaying tactics. Just keep up the appearance of things happening until it can all be quietly dropped and made to go away.

Itā€™s my thread.

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Iā€™d like to keep it friendly. If over half of your conversations are spent discussing the flaws of your fellow posters, you are degrading and distracting from what is an otherwise brilliant thread. Stay dignified my friend.

Then take issue with johnwk calling me out earlier.

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So now you resort to another stupid debating trick . . . taking my words out of context and then attacking the words you took out of context.

My following comment is factually correct and not an ā€œassumptionā€:

The current flow of foreigners crossing our southern border have one or more of the following characteristics . . . Being poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and/or having a criminal background

In regard to ā€œdisease carryingā€, one of the characteristics I mentioned, see Surge in COVID-positive migrants being released in US

March 8, 2021

ā€‹The number of migrants testing positive for the coronavirus before being released into the US by the Border Patrol is surging, almost doubling the amount from last week, according to a report. ā€‹ā€‹

Felipe Romero, a spokesman for Brownsville, Texas, said 185 migrants rapid-tested at the cityā€™s main bus station showed they were infected with COVID-19, ā€‹up from the 108 who tested positive last week, Fox News reported Monday.

The bottom line question to be answered remains:

Is the Biden Administration promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens by allowing the current flow of foreigners to flood across the Southern border of the United States?

JWK

The Biden/Harris socialist healthcare plan will tax Americaā€™s productive citizens and our retired Senior citizens to provide healthcare to the 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country ___ LINK

What context was lost?

We already saw earlier in this thread that slightly less than half lack a HS education, so yes, you are making assumptions. Itā€™s okay to make assumptionsā€¦ just donā€™t call them facts.

Yes, some of them have covidā€¦ not all.

I donā€™t think thatā€™s a yes/no question. There are places he could do better, everybody should be processed properly, checked for Covid, criminals should be filtered out, and children should not be separated from parents or put in inhumane living conditions. But I also donā€™t think allowing more immigrants in is hurting the general welfare. It just needs to be done better.

Fair point. I didnā€™t see it though. But nobody should do that. I notice more from the people who are constantly doing it with me. I try to stay away from the personal crap. But when they go after me, I hit back twice as hard. Which usually earns me a few days off. Which actually is needed. Too much of this crap will ruin your brain.

What I posted ABOVE is not an assumption, itā€™s a fact. Stop misrepresenting what I have posted as an ā€œassumptionā€.

JWK

My brain was ruined long ago. :wink:

Nice!
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Same. But Iā€™m in denial.

How can you say its a fact that all the foreigners crossing our southern border have at least one of the following characteristics: poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and/or having a criminal background, without interviewing every single one?

Do we have a fundamental disagreement on what a fact is vs an assumption?

Weā€™re not even bothering to find out. Theyā€™re just being freed. Totally unscreened. Should we find out?

Done better when our nationā€™s debt, including unfunded liabilities, is over $200 TRILLION, and many of our own CITIZENS are in need? One does not have to be a rocket scientist to figure out at this point in time the invasion at our Southern border is destructive to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

Bernadette Lancelin was spot on when she stated the following several years back and was addressing the Obama/Biden Administration:

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There are devastating effects being inflicted upon American Citizens because of the current and massive influx of foreigners at our Southern border, e.g., the public school systems in a number of states are being overburdened and the children of American taxpaying citizens are paying the price.
See Public Schools Struggle to Accommodate Unaccompanied Migrant Children

ā€œUndocumented and unaccompanied migrant children, particularly among Hispanic populations, are rapidly increasing in number, especially in the southern United States. Federal law requires public schools to provide services to all children. Yet, many schools are struggling to accommodate this new wave of potential students who come to them without parents or guardians, while some municipalities are flat out refusing to accommodate these children.ā€

Why are the children of American Citizens forced to take a back seat because of the Biden Administrationā€™s refusal to prevent a massive influx of foreign alien children?

JWK

There is no better way to weaken, destroy and bring to its knees a prosperous country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and criminal populations of other countries. So why is the Biden Administration engaging in this very act?

I never wrote ā€œall the foreigners crossing our southern border have at least one of the following characteristics . . .ā€

I originally STATED when posting to you: "the vast majority of those now flooding into our country from Central America fall into one or more of the above mentioned categories, and it is the American Taxpayer and their children who are paying the price. ".

My comment is accurate!

JWK

Everyone knows it. Not everyone is willing to admit it.

Still an assumption.

My statement "the vast majority of those now flooding into our country from Central America fall into one or more of the above mentioned categories, and it is the American Taxpayer and their children who are paying the price. ". is factually correct.

Why do you recoil from that which is factually correct?

The fact is, the Biden Administration is not promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens by allowing our Southern border to be overrun by the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and/or criminal populations of Central America. And is especially not promoting the general welfare of the United States and her Citizens when the national debt, including its unfunded debt, is over $ 200 TRILLION.

There seems to be something notoriously evil afoot by allowing this ongoing invasion to continue.

JWK

There is no better way to weaken, destroy and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and criminal populations of other countries.

Remember when ships were being quarantined because of the virus?
Now, with new strains popping upā€¦come on acrossā€¦illegally.

You said:

If we remove ā€œpoverty strickenā€ from that list (as I agree they probably all), do you still claim this is a ā€œfactā€ and not an assumption?

Fact or assumption:

The current flow of foreigners crossing our southern border have one or more of the following characteristics . . . Being poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and/or having a criminal background

This, by the way, is where I got ā€œall of the foreigners crossing our southern borderā€. When I posted that I hadnā€™t noticed that you changed your wording in later posts to " the vast majority of those now flooding into our country".

Though even then I still standby the opinion that that is not a fact but an assumption. We know a little over half have graduated high school. Iā€™m not sure where the low skill thing is coming from. Thereā€™s nothing about being from central America that means you canā€™t have skillsā€¦ theyā€™re immigrants, not mentally disabled. Diseased? Your own post said about 6% of those tested for covid were positive.

I never wrote ā€œall the foreigners crossing our southern border have at least one of the following characteristics . . .ā€

I originally STATED when posting to you: "the vast majority of those now flooding into our country from Central America fall into one or more of the above mentioned categories, and it is the American Taxpayer and their children who are paying the price. ".

My comment is accurate!

Why do you recoil from that which is factually correct?

The fact is, the Biden Administration is not promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens by allowing our Southern border to be overrun by the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and/or criminal populations of Central America. And is especially not promoting the general welfare of the United States and her Citizens when the national debt, including its unfunded debt, is over $ 200 TRILLION.

There seems to be something notoriously evil afoot by allowing this ongoing invasion to continue.

JWK

There is no better way to weaken, destroy and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and criminal populations of other countries.

Is this statement a fact or an assumption:
ā€œThe vast majority of the current flow of foreigners crossing our southern border have one or more of the following characteristics . . . Being poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying, disabled and/or having a criminal backgroundā€

I guess we donā€™t even agree on the definitions of ā€œevilā€.