Is Kabul 2021 becoming Saigon 1975?

Samm · 2021-08-16T21:51:51.459Z

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

Scratch · 2021-08-16T22:01:59.387Z

Samm:

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

" Over the next year and a half , the meetings advanced to the district level and then rapidly on to provincial capitals, culminating in a breathtaking series of negotiated surrenders by government forces, according to interviews with more than a dozen Afghan officers, police, special operations troops and other soldiers."

■■■■ was going downhill way before Biden.

Guvnah · 2021-08-16T22:09:20.073Z

All we did was delay the return to Islamist “normalcy” for 20 years.

Yes, an entire generation of Afghan people have tasted liberty of some sort, but they will be hammered down into compliance soon enough.

It has been this way among these people since the book of Genesis. It will not go away.

CanadianJudo · 2021-08-16T22:12:38.596Z

Samm:

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

which part did he not honour?

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-08-16T22:14:42.755Z

wiley8425:

Clearly. And we wonder why other countries hate us.

No. Not really.

Samm · 2021-08-16T22:17:15.249Z

Scratch:

Samm:

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

" Over the next year and a half , the meetings advanced to the district level and then rapidly on to provincial capitals, culminating in a breathtaking series of negotiated surrenders by government forces, according to interviews with more than a dozen Afghan officers, police, special operations troops and other soldiers."

■■■■ was going downhill way before Biden.

Of course. Why do you think Trump negotiated the agreement?

Samm · 2021-08-16T22:18:29.246Z

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

which part did he not honour?

The departure date. Perhaps more, but I am not familiar with the entire agreement.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2021-08-16T22:22:45.932Z

zantax:

TheRedComet:

If the people accept your teachings.

The Japanese people and the Germans easily accepted their new governments’ plans for the future. Mainly because there was already a sub culture of political liberalism in those states. Especially in Germany’s case. A good portion of the great liberal thinkers of the 1800s were German by birth. Despite its numerous flaws, the German Empire of 1871-1914 (when wwi broke out) had some democratic processes. Namely universal male suffrage above 25.

I don’t think the hardcore religious Sunnis in Afghanistan would take too kindly to it.

Then by the end of twenty years, the ones who forcibly opposed it would be dead or in jail. We also disarmed them. Any idea why we didn’t disarm the Taliban? Would we have tolerated armed Nazi’s in post war Germany?

Because they bailed. In asymmetrical warfare, there usually isn’t a formal defeat and surrender

zantax · 2021-08-16T22:26:15.393Z

TheRedComet:

I think he actually read the reports from NATO field commanders about joint ops with the Afghan National army. He knew the ANA was only a fighting force on paper.

The dude is probably real upset about this.

Umm, they were a fighting force, they have been doing the ground operations for years while we provided intel and air support.

CanadianJudo · 2021-08-16T22:36:04.080Z

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

which part did he not honour?

The departure date. Perhaps more, but I am not familiar with the entire agreement.

Biden delayed the departure date.

Samm · 2021-08-16T22:51:15.116Z

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

which part did he not honour?

The departure date. Perhaps more, but I am not familiar with the entire agreement.

Biden delayed the departure date.

Unilaterally. The other party in the Agreement was not even consulted.

CanadianJudo · 2021-08-16T22:56:38.572Z

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

which part did he not honour?

The departure date. Perhaps more, but I am not familiar with the entire agreement.

Biden delayed the departure date.

Unilaterally. The other party in the Agreement was not even consulted.

they didn’t need to be consulted, the agreement said withdrawal within 2021.

Samm · 2021-08-16T23:04:05.018Z

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

which part did he not honour?

The departure date. Perhaps more, but I am not familiar with the entire agreement.

Biden delayed the departure date.

Unilaterally. The other party in the Agreement was not even consulted.

they didn’t need to be consulted, the agreement said withdrawal within 2021.

No agreement can be changed unilaterally without consent of the second party without violating the agreement.

CanadianJudo · 2021-08-16T23:04:46.601Z

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

which part did he not honour?

The departure date. Perhaps more, but I am not familiar with the entire agreement.

Biden delayed the departure date.

Unilaterally. The other party in the Agreement was not even consulted.

they didn’t need to be consulted, the agreement said withdrawal within 2021.

No agreement can be changed unilaterally without consent of the second party without violating the agreement.

If I owe you money and we agree that I pay you before the end of 2021.
it doesn’t matter if I pay you in May or August.

Samm · 2021-08-16T23:08:08.892Z

Yes, if you changed the payment schedule without my approval.

Why do you think the May 1 date was spelled out so prominently if it didn’t really matter?

WuWei · 2021-08-16T23:11:22.416Z

Scratch:

When did we stop “Being ahead”?

Friday.

WuWei · 2021-08-16T23:12:11.231Z

TommyLucchese:

WuWei:

Are you deliberately not getting it?

I am still for “withdrawal” from A-stan. This isn’t a “withdrawal”, it’s a goat rope.

They’re following Trump’s thing you vocally supported because the only other option was to send more soldiers.

No they aren’t.

RTchoke · 2021-08-16T23:32:18.457Z

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

CanadianJudo:

Samm:

WuWei:

CanadianJudo:

Last three month they started this push in May.

Yes, 3 months. May was 3 months ago.

Yep right about the time that the Taliban realized that Biden was serious about not honoring the signed Agreement they had with Trump.

which part did he not honour?

The departure date. Perhaps more, but I am not familiar with the entire agreement.

Biden delayed the departure date.

Unilaterally. The other party in the Agreement was not even consulted.

they didn’t need to be consulted, the agreement said withdrawal within 2021.

No agreement can be changed unilaterally without consent of the second party without violating the agreement.

If I owe you money and we agree that I pay you before the end of 2021.
it doesn’t matter if I pay you in May or August.

Can you point to the part of the agreement that indicated the end of 2021 as the date of departure?

Scratch · 2021-08-16T23:47:46.534Z

Of course …

WuWei · 2021-08-16T23:52:12.758Z

Yaboi owns it.