Is it not time for our mainstream media to report the U.S. is under attack?

fallenturtle · 2021-05-09T19:37:48.160Z

johnwk2:

My characterizations are accurate. My use of “swarm” and “invasion”, are accurate in the context used. You just don’t like my characterizing what is taking place in succinct terms.

Your internal justifications don’t make it less dehumanizing.

johnwk2:

The bottom line is, there is no better way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries. So why is the Biden Administration engaging in this very act?

I don’t think the Biden Administration agrees with your hyperbolic assessment of the situation.

johnwk2:

And how is filling the United States with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries advancing the general welfare of the United States and her citizens?

Maybe its not. Some people are willing to sacrifice a little in the name of altruism.

Paul_Thomson · 2021-05-10T02:36:15.931Z

johnwk2:

fallenturtle:

Using terms that we might apply to an infestation of some pest like invasion and swarm is dehumanizing.

My characterizations are accurate. My use of “swarm” and “invasion”, are accurate in the context used. You just don’t like my characterizing what is taking place in succinct terms.

swarm

/swɔːm/

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noun

a large or dense group of flying insects.

“a swarm of locusts”

verb

(of flying insects) move in or form a swarm.

“a plague of locusts swarmed across the countryside”

move somewhere in large numbers.

“protesters were swarming into the building”

I’m pretty sure posters here and media described protesters as swarming the Capitol. Is saying, “I’m taking an elderly person for a walk” dehumanising because we happen to use the same terminology for dogs?

Are we going to move from segregating language into groups of words that can only be used of particular races, to segregating language into groups of words that can only be used of particular species?

johnwk2 · 2021-05-10T12:37:04.174Z

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

My characterizations are accurate. My use of “swarm” and “invasion”, are accurate in the context used. You just don’t like my characterizing what is taking place in succinct terms.

Your internal justifications don’t make it less dehumanizing.

I have no idea what you are talking about. If the characterizations engaged in are “dehumanizing” as you claim, then those engaging in those activities ought to stop.

Aside from that, how is filling the United States with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries advancing the general welfare of the United States and HER citizens?

JWK

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust Fund with millions of illegal entrants and foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

fallenturtle · 2021-05-10T15:11:13.570Z

johnwk2:

I have no idea what you are talking about. If the characterizations engaged in are “dehumanizing” as you claim, then those engaging in those activities ought to stop.

Sure you do… you choice of words is very deliberate.

johnwk2:

Aside from that, how is filling the United States with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries advancing the general welfare of the United States and her citizens?

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

And how is filling the United States with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries advancing the general welfare of the United States and her citizens?

Maybe its not. Some people are willing to sacrifice a little in the name of altruism.

johnwk2 · 2021-05-10T16:07:53.298Z

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

I have no idea what you are talking about. If the characterizations engaged in are “dehumanizing” as you claim, then those engaging in those activities ought to stop.

Sure you do… you choice of words is very deliberate.

No, I have no idea what you are talking about. Yes, my choice of words is deliberate and characterize activities in succinct terms. If those activities are “dehumanizing” as you claim, shouldn’t those engaging in such “dehumanizing” activates stop?

JWK

There is no better way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries.

johnwk2 · 2021-05-10T18:45:37.712Z

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

And how is filling the United States with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries advancing the general welfare of the United States and her citizens?

Maybe its not. Some people are willing to sacrifice a little in the name of altruism.

We all know about your suicidal “altruism” fallenturtle!

Yup. We know all about your kind of “altruism” . . . “From each according to their ability to pay, to each who needs help living a decent life.” ___ fallenturtle

You kind of “altruism” embraces the children of American citizens attending public schools having their activities cut to pay for the special needs of the children of those flooding across our border LINK

You kind of “altruism” is just fine with our nation’s health care system being over burdened with the healthcare needs of those invading our border LINK

Indeed, your thoughtless “altruism” has no concern that America’s laboring class citizens are having the property they have earned by the sweat of their labor [their paychecks] confiscated to pay for the births of “anchor babies” to illegal aliens, which in turn opens the door for more taxpayer financed benefits for this class of illegal alien, which sucks the life blood of American citizens like a swarm of ticks and fleas. See Illegal Immigrant Births - At Your Expense

"It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts is with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She’s rushed to a south Texas hospital to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical procedure that won’t cost her a dime. She qualifies for emergency Medicaid."

Indeed, your suicidal “altruism” now has America’s veterans sleeping in the streets while the Biden Administration is housing the surge of foreigners flooding into our country from Central America in expensive hotels at taxpayer expense! LINK

The sad truth is, under your “altruism”, American citizens are becoming homeless and sleeping in the streets while illegal entrants are housed in expensive hotels at taxpayer expense:

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You seem to forget that our Constitution commands our federal government to “repel invasions” and not encourage invasions with government mandated “free cheese” for those who swarm our border which is financed by confiscating the bread which America’s laboring class citizens have earned by the sweat of their labor.

You kind of “altruism”, fallenturtle, ignores the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the healthcare needs of millions of foreign nationals who have invaded America’s borders.

JWK

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of illegal entrants who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

fallenturtle · 2021-05-10T18:53:32.364Z

johnwk2:

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

I have no idea what you are talking about. If the characterizations engaged in are “dehumanizing” as you claim, then those engaging in those activities ought to stop.

Sure you do… you choice of words is very deliberate.

No, I have no idea what you are talking about. Yes, my choice of words is deliberate and characterize activities in succinct terms. If those activities are “dehumanizing” as you claim, shouldn’t those engaging in such “dehumanizing” activates stop?

There are non-dehumanizing words you could use in place of invading and swarms. It’s not that they are engaging in dehumanizing activities per say, but that you are characterizing their activities in dehumanizing rhetoric.

fallenturtle · 2021-05-10T18:55:36.247Z

johnwk2:

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Raise taxes on the upper class.

DougBH · 2021-05-10T18:57:06.029Z

fallenturtle:

Maybe its not. Some people are willing to sacrifice a little in the name of altruism.

Then let them sacrifice their country in an honest, above board fashion. Propose a change to the immigration laws to allow greater burdens on the taxpayers and see if it passes.
Not enforcing laws that exist is dishonest and fails as a method of signaling ones virtue.

fallenturtle · 2021-05-10T18:59:34.218Z

Laws should be enforced. Not sure what this has to do with virtue signaling.

johnwk2 · 2021-05-10T21:20:26.736Z

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

fallenturtle:

johnwk2:

I have no idea what you are talking about. If the characterizations engaged in are “dehumanizing” as you claim, then those engaging in those activities ought to stop.

Sure you do… you choice of words is very deliberate.

No, I have no idea what you are talking about. Yes, my choice of words is deliberate and characterize activities in succinct terms. If those activities are “dehumanizing” as you claim, shouldn’t those engaging in such “dehumanizing” activates stop?

There are non-dehumanizing words you could use in place of invading and swarms. It’s not that they are engaging in dehumanizing activities per say, but that you are characterizing their activities in dehumanizing rhetoric.

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I don’t recall you complaining about “dehumanizing rhetoric” when our socialist, Fifth Column media, reported on American Citizens demonstrating on Capitol Hill: e.g.,:

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Watch live: Angry Trump supporters swarm Capitol, breaking …

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Congress recesses as Trump supporters invade U.S. Capitol …

My choice of words characterizes current activities on our southern border in accurate and succinct language. If those activities are “dehumanizing” as you claim, shouldn’t those engaging in such “dehumanizing” activates stop what they are doing?

JWK

When it comes to healthcare and helping foreigners in need, our socialist revolutionaries have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

Paul_Thomson · 2021-05-11T02:59:23.202Z

fallenturtle:

It’s not that they are engaging in dehumanizing activities per say, but that you are characterizing their activities in dehumanizing rhetoric.

Sex trafficking is not dehumanising? Impoverishing middle class citizens to encourage Democrat-leaning beneficiaries to surge across borders illegally and adjust the voting demographic in Democrats favour is not dehumanising?
Encouraging cartels to traffic children as passports for illegal adults to get into the US and then sending those children back to do it again, is not dehumanising?

Paul_Thomson · 2021-05-11T03:03:32.092Z

fallenturtle:

Laws should be enforced. Not sure what this has to do with virtue signaling.

The actual legislation is been countermanded by Biden’s EOs and is not being enforced. This law-breaking is being excused by you under the guise of compassion. Hence, it is virtue signalling without actually doing virtue.

PeterGriffin · 2021-05-11T03:43:38.957Z

johnwk2:

I don’t recall you complaining about “dehumanizing rhetoric” when our socialist, Fifth Column media, reported on American Citizens demonstrating on Capitol Hill: e.g

Found the people literally attacking America!

fallenturtle · 2021-05-11T06:03:08.424Z

johnwk2:

I don’t recall you complaining about “dehumanizing rhetoric” when our socialist, Fifth Column media, reported on American Citizens demonstrating on Capitol Hill: e.g.,:

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Watch live: Angry Trump supporters swarm Capitol, breaking …

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Congress recesses as Trump supporters invade U.S. Capitol …

Context.
“these invaders suck the life blood of the United States like a swarm of ticks and fleas”

fallenturtle · 2021-05-11T06:17:03.381Z

Paul_Thomson:

Sex trafficking is not dehumanising?
Encouraging cartels to traffic children as passports for illegal adults to get into the US and then sending those children back to do it again, is not dehumanising?

Obviously those are dehumanizing. Are you assuming the vast majority of immigrants at the border are doing that?

Impoverishing middle class citizens to encourage Democrat-leaning beneficiaries to surge across borders illegally and adjust the voting demographic in Democrats favour is not dehumanising?

Thats not happening.

fallenturtle · 2021-05-11T06:19:26.697Z

Paul_Thomson:

fallenturtle:

Laws should be enforced. Not sure what this has to do with virtue signaling.

The actual legislation is been countermanded by Biden’s EOs and is not being enforced. This law-breaking is being excused by you under the guise of compassion. Hence, it is virtue signalling without actually doing virtue.

I think you’re confusing me with someone else.

johnwk2 · 2021-05-11T13:03:15.072Z

Paul_Thomson:

fallenturtle:

It’s not that they are engaging in dehumanizing activities per say, but that you are characterizing their activities in dehumanizing rhetoric.

Sex trafficking is not dehumanising? Impoverishing middle class citizens to encourage Democrat-leaning beneficiaries to surge across borders illegally and adjust the voting demographic in Democrats favour is not dehumanising?
Encouraging cartels to traffic children as passports for illegal adults to get into the US and then sending those children back to do it again, is not dehumanising?

It is absolutely stunning how many people living in the United States openly advocate and make excuses in defense of millions of foreigners flooding across our border who suck the life blood of American citizens like a swarm of ticks and fleas.

One example are the estimated 300,000 poverty stricken females who enter our country illegally each year and give birth to an “anchor baby” at the expense of American citizens, which then opens the door for these leeches to be eligible for more taxpayer benefits.
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See Illegal Immigrant Births - At Your Expense

"It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts is with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She’s rushed to a south Texas hospital to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical procedure that won’t cost her a dime. She qualifies for emergency Medicaid."

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How can any patriotic American citizen defend this invasion of our country, especially when our national debt, including unfunded debt liabilities, is about $222 TRILLION, and American citizens, including our Vets, are homeless and sleeping in the streets?

see:
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How is filling the United States with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries advancing the general welfare of the United States and HER citizens?
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It seems clearer as each day passes the United States is being defeated from within, and without a shot being fired!

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JWK

There is no better way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries.

fallenturtle · 2021-05-11T16:03:19.589Z

johnwk2:

"It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts is with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She’s rushed to a south Texas hospital to undergo a C-sectio

Anchor Babies - Taxpayers Paying for Illegal Alien Births

Illegals in hotels… Americans In The Street!

johnwk2:

"It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts is with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She’s rushed to a south Texas hospital to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical procedure that won’t cost her a dime. She qualifies for emergency Medicaid."

Anchor Babies - Taxpayers Paying for Illegal Alien Births

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How can any patriotic American citizen defend this invasion of our country, especially when our national debt, including unfunded debt liabilities, is about $222 TRILLION, and American citizens, including our Vets, are homeless and sleeping in the streets?

see:
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Illegals in hotels… Americans In The Street!

johnwk2:

It is absolutely stunning how many people living in the United States openly advocate and make excuses in defense of millions of foreigners flooding across our border who suck the life blood of American citizens like a swarm of ticks and fleas.

fallenturtle:

Using terms that we might apply to an infestation of some pest like invasion and swarm is dehumanizing.

The circle, is complete!

DougBH · 2021-05-11T17:23:07.288Z

There’s no reason to vilify all the people who want to come here illegally. It is up to our leaders to enforce our laws. When they give mixed signals to those who would break our laws to improve their own lives, its more on the leaders than the illegals.
You can’t tell someone who wants to short circuit our laws not to come here now and at the same time tell them that if they get here they may well be released…and once in the general population not be deported.
To someone desperate to improve their situation, that is just an invitation to break in front of line before those willing to follow the legal process. And that is more on those giving the mixed signals than those willing to take advantage.