Is America in Decline?-A Culture Wars Discussion

Women actually have more freedom (socially) then men. Men are expected to work, to build careers, to support their families. Women can do whatever they want regardless of having children.

And itā€™s not just waitressing or secretarial work. More than half of the engineers where I worked are now women. All of the doctors I see are women except for my urologist and he has a woman PA. Even our two vets (one for the dog, one for the cats) are women. Half the time I fly, one of the two pilots are women.

But what of the children ā€¦ :thinking:

Happy wifeā€¦happy lifeā€¦

Sounds right to me.

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Yes, and those days are gone, since the govt has the idea you shouldnā€™t be allowed to do those things.

Drive an old(er) car? Nope, Cash for Clunkers get those off the road to make way for those electric cars they want to force you to buy at some point.

Grow your own good? gasp! Canā€™t have that. Especially if you plan to irrigate with a rainwater catchment system. The govt owns that water dammit. Homesteading and self sufficiency is now ā€œfar rightā€ and up there with terroristic tendencies.

The govt is working hard to make you dependent on them and them alone, and the perpetually stupid follow along and spout the approved lines. Cow farts!!! Eat the insects!

The days of the govt promoting self sufficiency ala victory gardens etc. are long gone my friend.

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He wasnā€™t wrong. He was pointing out how the Democrats had failed the rural Midwest. Instead of working for them, they worked against them by pushing the Neo-Liberal pro business agenda that the right seized on by making them blame immigrants and the ā€œotherā€ instead of the people who pulled the factories out of their towns.

The thing is that Obama turned out to be the exact same sort of Neo-Liberal that the two previous administrations were makes the entire thing worse.

The bitter clinger was a lamentā€¦ not an accusation.

Oh noā€¦ how dare he point out that even someone that he cares for deeply is still a flawed human and has prejudices. The horror.

Manā€¦ when did the typical white person become so thinned skinned?

Yeah. That is a kill your radio one.

That speech was an economic one. He was doing the Wall Street v Main Street thing.

In the end Wall Street won.

It was a speechā€¦ but he wasnā€™t wagging his fingerā€¦ he was talking about economic opportunity for the middle class in the face of a cratering economy.

This is the problem when it comes to Obamaā€¦ all of his words for some reason carry the worst connotation for the right but letā€™s say when a candidate says that he will be a day one dictatorā€¦ no big deal.

And like 1865 it is apparently only one sides fault.

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His credibility didnā€™t matter back then.

He was listened to and followed.

There was even a major 9/12 Tea party thing that he put together.

Glenn Beck was very influential seeing the Obama administration and he used that influence to spread the nonsense of old Bircher weirdos.

Is the suggestion here that we go back to a time before progressive policies? Where do we draw the line? Back to pre civil rights? Womanā€™s suffrage? The gays?

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Are you new? Discrimination against women in favor of men in hiring or promotion is illegal. Discrimination against men in favor of hiring or promoting women is not. The term they use to justify the former is ā€œunderutilized.ā€

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Maintaining the balance, huh.

Do you have a computer algorithm to do that, or do you just wing it?

In this modern society everybody gets a trophy ā€¦

We keep the good things and throw away the bad things.

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Speaking of the first idea that gets thrown away.

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What is considered to be good and from era are we talking about?

You are right.

The disenfranchisement was in the dismissal. They could come along for the ride, but they had to sit in the back and keep their mouths shut. Fundamental change requires compliance of the masses whether they want to change or not.

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Whatā€™s wrong with kids having mementoes of being on a team and playing sports?

Kids know who wins and losesā€¦ they arenā€™t dumb.

Having a souvenir of being on a team is one of the weird culture war complaints.

Well, your last sentence is right.

Which side?

The side that burned the country down when they lost an election?

You over-estimate your enemies. Beckā€™s influence is very limited (and made fun of even by conservatives.) And he while he may espouse much of the same philosophy if the Birchers, he isnā€™t one.

Get a new theory. This one is badly outdated.

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I was here for it. I saw it happen. Glenn Beck was the dude. He was at the time the highest rated show on Fox News.

During his show he was introducing his audience to Bircher weirdos.

A few years laterā€¦ the Bircher weirdos win the party with the help of the Dominionists

This isnā€™t ancient history.

We all watched it happen in real time.

Your side ā€¦ Obviously.