Most political discussion in this forum does seem to come from one side or the other. Thus far, this discussion has been pretty binary, with LIBs on one side and CONs on the other.
Seeing them dance around their party being ok with Iran funding Hamas is comedy gold! Lifting sanctions would fund them even more and yet they all want the deal back including Biden according to BIBI! Then dance about woulda coulda shoulda policies that won’t do anything.
Also, no, the response is not ‘conservative’. The prevailing American consensus on Israel and Iran is neo-liberal, and for the Likudniks, quite without irony, Schmittian.
The enduring conservative stance with regard to Tel Aviv is ’ ■■■■ those guys’.
Three of you have singled me out for personal attack regarding my posting behavior. If you want to comment that my opinions are typical CONs responses that’s fine. I’ve said as much about LIB responses. Obama, Hillary, Trump, or any other politician loyalty has no role in this discussion.
“I haven’t seen any evidence in either case that domestic courts can and will prosecute alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity. And I would emphasize that in Israel and Palestine that this includes crimes committed both by the Israeli security forces and Hamas. In Afghanistan, it includes crimes committed by the Afghan national government and the Taliban. In both of these cases, if courts can’t or won’t pursue justice and we oppose the ICC, where do we think the victims of these supposed crimes can go for justice? And what justice mechanisms do you support for them?”
"We must have the same level of accountability and justice for all victims of crimes against humanity.
We have seen unthinkable atrocities committed by the U.S., Hamas, Israel, Afghanistan, and the Taliban."
If any of my posts have offended you, I will happily delete them. I am not trying to attack you.
But I will push back on the idea that couching your insults at generic “LIBS” is somehow more legitimate a style of debate than old-fashioned personal attacks are.
Generally yes (spending reduction is more sloganeering than anything else), but since we are discussing foreign policy, it is that component of the neoliberal consensus to which I refer.