If Trump was smart, he would resign soon

[GWH]

If he did it this year, wouldn’t the same be true? Why no accusations of desperation from you towards the op?

[gooddad409]

@toreyj01

I know that unaccompanied minors were held for up to 3 days in these types of facilities during Obama’s tenure, and there were a lot of Dems that were unhappy about even that amount of time.

But Trump upped it by actually separating kids from their parents and keeping them much longer in these facilities. Including babies who had to be tended to by other kids. Little kids have died in these facilities under Trump’s watch.

That is terrible. Unforgivable.

What is unforgivable is allowing millions of illegals in resulting in murders and numerous other crimes against American citizens.

The left seems to look at citizens as some sort of collateral damage.

[Oryx]

@westaussie

If Pence was to Pardon Trump he would be committing political suicide.

Without Trump, Pence has no political career.

[gooddad409]

@Snow96

So they are looking at stuff from before he was president, some decades ago.

Don’t cha think the IRS and/or New York tax commission would have found it previous?

Now it’s like they want to “tweek” the rules to suit a purpose.

Investigations in search of a crime. Totally partisan in nature.

[westaussie]

The OP indicated that by Trump resigning it would allow Pence to pardon him. The post does not indicate that Trump should pardon himself. It speaks to Pence pardoning him in 2019 or 2020. By resigning in 2019 the OP suggests that would allow Pence to undo some of the damage of Trump’s presidency in the eyes of the voters.

[Smyrna]

@Chris

It is really interesting how a lot of Trump Republicans believe that the CIA and the FBI are basically corrupt while at the same time believing that ICE is a very well run Federal agency.

Wow…I didn’t know that Comey, Strozk, McCabe…etc. represented the entire FBI?

[GWH]

“Damage”

Perception is key. I’m unwilling to accept yours, you are unwilling to accept mine. What if I told you the damage was done by the willing but unwitting accomplices of the Russians to destroy this president and this nation by pursuing the Russian witch-hunt?

[Blackwolf]

@gooddad409

The left seems to look at citizens as some sort of collateral damage.

You think your side’s so innocent?

MakeAmericaWhataboutAgain

[lessright]

That “old” song actually sounds like what Don Jr. would sing to a rally crowd to get them warmed up.

I get why you might think differently though since repugs don’t often read beyond headlines or titles.

[AZslim]

@GWH

Acceptance! Progress!

Good. I’m glad you agree he will try to tear down the electoral process.

You will be voting against him in order to save it?

[AmusedObserver]

@Chris

It is really interesting how a lot of Trump Republicans believe that the CIA and the FBI are basically corrupt while at the same time believing that ICE is a very well run Federal agency.

Also forgetting how that “corrupt” Comey basically handed the election to Trump with his announcement about re-opening the email investigation just days before the election.

[SimplyTrying]

@AZslim

@BillBrown

@AZslim

No, I’m afraid the threat won’t end until he is dead or too ill to speak.

I wonder how many lefty lunatics agree with you. The Secret Service has it’s hands full.

Nice try to twist this into a threat.

You fail.

Again.

Haven’t you heard? Trump conquered death. He is the most alive person ever to exist and always will be.

[zantax]

@toreyj01

Second, he needs an out. If he loses in 2020 he will be going to jail for the rest of his life, if not by the DOJ certainly by the SDNY. What he needs is a pardon, and to do that he needs to walk away and have Pence become President. Pence can then pardon him in the same way Ford pardoned Nixon.

Now, he can gamble and try to win in 2020 and then just resign if he loses and have Pence pardon him during the lame duck period.

You’re forgetting something, stipulating your assertion New York can put him away for life on state charges is true, Presidents can’t pardon you for state crimes, only federal ones. And what are the statute of limitations on these state charges you are certain he will be convicted on?

@toreyj01

If he actually wins in 2020, he can then be impeached, which he almost certainly will be. The only reason Pelosi is holding off is because she feels the straighter path to getting him out of office is the 2020 election.

He may be impeached but conviction remains unlikely.

[lessright]

I doubt your ‘fact’ about the predominant legal view.

When the president says, “People are saying…” you can almost bet they’re not.

Pardoning yourself would be antithetical to democracy and rule of law.

[pam95650]

Pence would not be able to pardon trump if he is guilty of state crimes.

**If he actually wins in 2020, he can then be impeached, which he almost certainly will be. **

trump can only be impeached (and removed) if the Dems take a super majority in the Senate and retain the House.

The easiest way to remove him, is to vote out his ass.

[Smyrna]

@AZslim

Good. I’m glad you agree he will try to tear down the electoral process.

You will be voting against him in order to save it?

Yeah…like the process labeled the Electoral College? Who wants to remove that? Can you be honest?

[Jezcoe]

@Plasmaball

I doubted Warren but her policy push seems to really win people over. .

Yeah. I like Warren… her policy positions align a lot with what I believe.

I personally thought that she was too much of a policy wonk for this era… and in a way I still do… but she is surprising in how far she has gotten.

[Plasmaball]

I still think its Hillary 2.0 but she doesnt have the Hillary cackle and seems smarter

[BillBrown]

@lessright

I doubt your ‘fact’ about the predominant legal view.

When the president says, “People are saying…” you can almost bet they’re not.

Pardoning yourself would be antithetical to democracy and rule of law.

We don’t live in a Democracy. If pardoning himself violates the rule of law, quote the law it violates.

[reflechissez]

@GWH

2 1/2 years of Mueller investigation ending in the “testimony” of “Well, if it’s in the report, then it’s correct.” has Americans scratching their heads wondering why. Why the expense? Why the show? Why no impeachment if damning as dems claim? Democrats will come away looking ineffective and then desperate if they press at a later date. Their window of opportunity is closing, if it hasn’t already, and this will bear out next November.

Benghazi comes to mind.