If NATO membership for Ukraine was a known bright red line for Russia, why did Biden promote it?

You can look at the evidence I provided or not.

I gave you the most comprehensive breakdown of the event to date.

You can either look at that and learn or continue to listen to Jimmy Dore.

Either way Is fine with me.

One way leads to a more correct understanding that doesn’t rely on guesswork.

I asked for one example. You still have not provided it.

Here is an excerpt of the statements from Karas:

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Okay.

Let us assume that it was all engineered by Right Sector.

If so… they failed in the goal of obtaining political power.

Since Maidan, their political power has only diminished to negligence.

So now what?

Truth is in the middle there was far right at maiden, they are embedded in the police and military. Plus general racism which runs throughout that region of the world especially against the Roma. Also on the other side it’s ridiculous to think Putin invaded to de nazify the region that’s just silly that was used and excuse and no one should buy it.

That being said with the Russians invading and now shooting tank rounds at a nuclear power plant six times the size of Chernobyl the far right is the least of Ukraines problems and if that plant blows the worlds.

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It looks the incident at the nuke plant is overstated. There is no radiation leak from what I last saw.

The idea that the Russians would create a radiation leak at a plant that they plan to occupy makes no sense. Putin did not work his way through the KGB by being stupid.

True.

Now a question for you:
True or false: Everyone in a position of power in Ukraine is still stealing the country blind.

If you disagree with the statements from the video, provide actual evidence to prove them wrong.

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Is there any indication that Nalvalny is stealing them blind?

I saw before that he was a figurehead.

A figurehead to who?

how dare Ukraine remove their corrupt government.
that isn’t cool.

They replaced one corrupt government with another.

The difference is that the new one comes with pogroms and neo-Nazis. The same neo-Nazis brag about leading the coup against the elected president and starting the biggest war in 60 years.

And they brag about the support they receive from western governments.

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Bill I am not for the far right either but they can hardily kick these guys out at a time like this when their country is about to be swallowed up. Far right or not they are patriots/nationalists. I don’t agree with the extreme in their elements but it’s this bunch that fought back against Russia in 2014. Reeducation can start if they keep their country imho.

Your deep on that Russian propaganda.

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wait till you learn the neo-nazis are fighting russian neo-nazis.

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What can they do they are invaded by Russia you can’t kick out fighters with fighting experience at a time like this. Plus it doesn’t look like a bunch I would want to fight, so I would imagine Russia is thinking the same lol.

I hope so this is turning worse by the day it needs to stop everyday it continues the likely hood of something like a nuclear plant explosion or something else will happen.

Plus European wars hardily have a tendency staying a local conflict they always break out into something worse with more countries. Scary times Ukraine has the right to survive. I agree I wish we could have tried to keep them a border country, Macron was floating the idea but unfortunately it didn’t catch on.

Now though it is what it is we need some diplomacy fast or something like tonight’s nuclear plant scare which I hope is over, although I am hearing mixed messages on that doesn’t happen again. I really am worried this could go nuclear I am not as confident as everyone else it won’t.

Remember when the US military was full of neo-Nazis?

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I didn’t say one word about the Russian psyche.

I wasn’t talking about Russia.

Yet you’re doing it.

According the US media, there are radically different definitions of neo-Nazi in the US and Ukraine.

In the US, it means you attended a rally where someone carried a Confederate flag, or you used the wrong pronoun. If you voted for Trump, then you are classified as at least a “Nazi-sympathizer”.

On the other hand in Ukraine, only people who are neo-Nazis are the handful who openly admit they are neo-Nazis on-camera in English. If you point out the difference in definitions, you are a Russian operative according to the corporate media.

The groups who glorify people who committed killed who collaborated with real Nazis and went on to exterminate civilians are rarely called neo-Nazis. The groups are direct descendants of the [UPA].(Ukrainian Insurgent Army - Wikipedia). Here is a description of massacres of ethnic Poles in World War II:

The methods used by UPA to carry out the massacres were particularly brutal and were committed indiscriminately without any restraint. Historian Norman Davies describes the killings: "Villages were torched. Roman Catholic priests were axed or crucified. Churches were burned with all their parishioners. Isolated farms were attacked by gangs carrying pitchforks and kitchen knives. Throats were cut. Pregnant women were bayoneted. Children were cut in two. Men were ambushed in the field and led away. In total, the estimated numbers of Polish civilians killed by UPA in Volhynia and Galicia is about 100,000.

UPA leaders are publicly venerated in Ukraine.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-poland-join-in-protest-against-ukraine-monument-to-nazi-collaborator/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-state-historian-says-poland-and-israel-parrot-russian-propaganda/

Even groups who glorify actual Nazis from World War II are rarely labeled neo-Nazis. Here is a description of one of the groups that are being trained by NATO in Ukraine:

Among the Nazi figures venerated
by the group are Belgian Nazi
collaborator and SS officer Léon
Degrelle, described by Centuria as a
“true European,” Finnish SS officer
Brunolf Palmgren, and a slew of
figures associated with the ethnic
Ukrainian 14th Waffen Grenadier
Division of the SS. In a dedicated
text published in April 2020,
Centuria praised that Nazi unit as
“the symbol the enemies of Ukraine
fear” and urged followers to defend
it from attacks. “As long as we have
examples and images to look up to,
we are invincible,” the group
proclaimed. Centuria’s reverence
for SS Galicia is not unlike the
stance of even some of the
moderate nationalist circles in
Ukraine.

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No I’m not.

I’m stating what the US and NATO will never do…not making a comment as to whether Russia believes it or not.

As a practical matter, the US and NATO are not a military threat to Russia