I Think We Can All Agree Now That blacklivesmatter Is A Massive Failure As an Organization

FloridaYankee · August 1, 2020, 1:44pm

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And policing continues to be reshaped before our very eyes. People are acting like the demands of the extremists are going to be implemented when we all know the final result will not be that, but rather something much more reasonable and effective.

In 5 years people will be looking back at 2019 as the good days of policing. All these protests are doing is ensuring that shootings and murders will skyrocket in the black communities. Not by police but by other blacks. Its already happening in the major cities as the police have shrunk back and stopped being proactive but this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Couple that with the devastating effects this is going to have the ranks of police. NYPD can’t process retirement request as fast as they are coming in. Minneapolis has a quarter of its force applying for PTSD disability retirements. Basically everyone who can get out is getting out. Which is going to leave behind a disgruntled bunch who are too far along to start over in a new career.

As to who is going to replace them? Recruiting has been a severe challenge for years now. When I started in 1996 300 people showed up for a test at my PD for 3 openings. When we tested last fall for 11 openings 30 people showed up. In any test you can wash out at least half as they’ll fail either the written, physical, or criminal background check (prior crimes or drug use). More will fail the character background check and psych test. Which leaves very few quality applicants and they are in demand at every dept they apply for. One girl we hired had got 4 job offers from area depts.

Its going to be even harder with all the turmoil as who in their right mind is going to want to be a cop in this environment and face the abuse cops are facing except the ones who shouldn’t be cops to begin with. We turn away a lot of questionable applicants who look good on paper til you get into the background. Like a guy we turned down named Damon. On paper he looked great, decent grades, had worked security jobs since high school, etc. In the background check though they discovered the following: 1) at age 17 he bought a used police car and re outfitted it as close to being an actual police car as possible, 2) he wore typical police supporter clothing everywhere, 3) contacts with neighbors and co-workers showed a guy who liked power and wanted authority over others, etc. In other words he fit the exact profile of every police impersonator you see on the news and is exactly the kind of guy we don’t want. But in the future he’ll be all thats left so he’ll be hired.

So your going to have massive carnage in black communities as they kill each other at greater rates than they do now and few good cops to respond.

Pure paranoia on display. People need to respect police. When that changes everything will change. Respect is earned. Earn the people’s respect (widely) and they will support you more than you can imagine.

Yes sir, if there’s one thing criminals respect, it’s the law and those that enforce it!! Police should be rearmed with Loli pops and balloons instead of guns and batons. Just hand those out whenever they observe someone committing a crime and give them a stern but respectful lecture on the harm their crime is doing to society. Why, if police would just begin doing this nation wide, in a few weeks we’d have Libtopia!!

If that’s what you want, don’t get your hopes up.

mbus · August 1, 2020, 8:56pm

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speak for BLM, but they will tell you that crime will never be eradicated in the Black community until underlying causes are addressed. Those underlying causes are becoming the focus of BLM.
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The underlying causes do go back a few decades and continues to today, which is the breakdown of the family. Over 70% of black children born are to single parents. Over 50% of Latino children to single parents. Who a child’s parents are and how they are raised will have the greatest impact on the type of person they become in life.

To what do you attribute that breakdown of family?

Let’s consider this graphic, which displays the increase in single parent households from just before 1960 to 2014:

Can you tell me what happened in the 1960’s?

That I can attribute to a 40% increase in single parent households? Not any one thing.

What’s your opinion?

mbus · August 1, 2020, 8:57pm

Smyrna:

mbus:

BLM is a movement far beyond the organization. It has morphed into a movement primarily devoted to raising consciousness about systemic racism, and attempting to change that racism where it occurs. I am not Black, so can’t speak for BLM, but they will tell you that crime will never be eradicated in the Black community until underlying causes are addressed. Those underlying causes are becoming the focus of BLM.

If BLM’s direction was implemented in the black community, the problem of murder and violence would be exacerbated. They want to destroy the nuclear family…which is the root cause of the problems in inner cities. There’s no father present in the home. Almost every problem with in this group is a direct result of this fact. That’s what needs to be addressed and BLM wants to exacerbate it even more. It’s right in the manifesto.

I am unaware that BLM wants to destroy the nuclear family. Can you help me with that?

WuWei · August 1, 2020, 8:58pm

Come on man! Late 60s early 70s!

You know this!

WuWei · August 1, 2020, 8:58pm

Redefine would be more accurate.

mbus · August 1, 2020, 8:59pm

Haha! Okay, I’ll play. Welfare and abortion?

PurpnGold · August 1, 2020, 8:59pm

Mass incarceration and war on drugs in the 70s and 80s

WuWei · August 1, 2020, 8:59pm

NO! The women’s liberation movement!

mbus · August 1, 2020, 9:00pm

Damn. I’m 0 for 2.

WuWei · August 1, 2020, 9:01pm

What was the other one?

WuWei · August 1, 2020, 9:01pm

Contributing factor.

mbus · August 1, 2020, 9:02pm

PurplenGold’s, ‘Mass incarceration and war on drugs in the 70s and 80s’

WildRose · August 1, 2020, 9:03pm

Really poor shifting of the goal posts.

Biases of all sorts exist, that doesn’t validate the claims of “systemic racism” which cannot even be defined.

WuWei · August 1, 2020, 9:03pm

Definitely a factor with black women. A major one.

But look at the overall.

WildRose · August 1, 2020, 9:05pm

Welfare and the ongoing erosion of moral standards largely due to people turning away from religion.

PurpnGold · August 1, 2020, 9:08pm

The only factors. Welfare was an outcome of family’s being broken up.

WuWei · August 1, 2020, 9:09pm

What were? Mine and yours? Ok.

WildRose · August 1, 2020, 9:09pm

There’s of course zero evidence to support that claim.

What percentage of black males incarcerated for drug crimes were Married to their babymommas and supporting those families when they were arrested and sent to prison?

mbus · August 1, 2020, 9:09pm

Yes, to turning away from moral standards; not whether turning away from religion causes that. But that’s a different thread.

WildRose · August 1, 2020, 9:10pm

Welfare spurred the breakup of families and discouraged marriage because having a working age male in the home made the family ineligible.