How Many Denials Were There?

[WuWei]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@WuWei

Except for the actual railroad, it’s actual history.

I didn’t dispute that the events shown have a counterpart in real history even if you thought that I - the person you have been tricked into thinking minimizes the evils of slavery- did.

But I do dispute that the theme is honest.

Maybe. What is the theme that is not honest? This?

@Call_me_Ishmael

“Whites hate and oppress blacks and even those who don’t hate them will sell them out, turn them in, or otherwise betray them through malice or weakness.”

“Some” would and did.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

You’re gonna get whiplash arguing both sides as you do.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@e7alr

So are you ashamed that Africans sold your ancestors into slavery, and continue to sell other Africans into slavery today?

I’m not ashamed at all. I find it fascinating. However what does that have to do with the institution in the US? Whatever connection I had to Africa was stripped away generations ago.

What a coincidence; I’m not ashamed either. Whatever connection I had to slavery in America was stripped away generations ago.

[WuWei]

@Call_me_Ishmael

as you often do.

Sure

@Call_me_Ishmael

The genre is intended to entertain. The claim about teaching history is bogus

And in your mind, the two are mutually exclusive?

@Call_me_Ishmael

The events have some historical bases ( how much is TBD)

I think you know better than that. A compilation of two events at worst. Not exactly unheard of.

@Call_me_Ishmael

So, in a pre civil war setting

A burning and shooting a freetown? They took it easy.

[WuWei]

@Call_me_Ishmael

You’re gonna get whiplash arguing both sides as you do.

And there’s the problem! There is validity to “both sides.” The truth lies between “both sides”. Am I required to choose?

I refuse.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

We all know there are two sides. We all refused already. That truth no doubt interferes with any delusional Solomon complex that readers here may have. That’s on them.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Jezcoe

It is one of the great American plays.

Fences was written in 80’s

Complaining about a movie adaptation of it is like complaining about the new adaptation of Macbeth with Denzel Washington in the lead role.

And I’m told that showing movies about a period of time during slavery or Jim Crow… makes people (conservatives) that slavery and Jim Crow is happening today.

Wait and since Denzel was in a few movies about those times (glory, fences, Malcolm X, Remember the titans) he MUST believe we are still under Jim Crow too.

Sounds to me as though you have nothing to complain about other than the complainers. Something you and I have in common, huh.

[WuWei]

@Call_me_Ishmael

We all know there are two sides. That truth no doubt interferes with any delusional Solomon complex that readers here may have. That’s on them.

Do we? Doesn’t seem to be the case.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@WuWei

@Call_me_Ishmael

We all know there are two sides. That truth no doubt interferes with any delusional Solomon complex that readers here may have. That’s on them.

Do we? Doesn’t seem to be the case.

As I said… that’s on you.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

Hey @PurpnGold ! What do you think he meant by “true consciousness”?

Knowledge is power. Most people believe higher education is the key to opening your mind.

But only the acceptable, approved knowledge, right?

[Guilds]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Nice change up!

He gets 1 point for being creative, -10 for substance.

[WuWei]

Crit epistemology!

[Dem]

@Call_me_Ishmael

There is no other theme to the show. It’s a brilliant piece of divisiveness.

Some people may draw that conclusion. But that’s on them. Would it be better if media didn’t write stories about slaves, or Jim Crow? Just avoid those stories all together?

[WuWei]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@WuWei

@Call_me_Ishmael

We all know there are two sides. That truth no doubt interferes with any delusional Solomon complex that readers here may have. That’s on them.

Do we? Doesn’t seem to be the case.

As I said… that’s on you.

Is it?

@Call_me_Ishmael

You’re gonna get whiplash arguing both sides as you do.

[Samm]

@Guilds

You are simply not getting it. Many of our laws, customs and culture, are directly tied to the tragic practice of slavery, Jim Crow and other systemic racism. Some are quite recent, and not from a by gone era.

Do you mean like Affirmative Action, including racial quotas in university admissions and minority preferences in employment?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

Those interested on how the dramatization
“the underground railroad” relates to CRT can find on the internet multiple reviews. Apparently some here have not done their homework before commenting on it

[WuWei]

I will readily admit I haven’t done my homework on “magical realism” movies.

[DougBH]

If there are specific laws, customs or whatever that are not “fair” today, then they stand by themselves. Argue about what is fair today. The only thing honing in on particular areas of the past is to make descendants of people who were real victims out to be the victims…and the kid down the aisle to be the villain.
Its like having a class covering the higher crime rate among blacks, and showing case after case of a black person attacking a white person…and done for pretty much the same reason that would be done.

[Guilds]

@Samm

Do you mean like Affirmative Action, including racial quotas in university admissions and minority preferences in employment?

Myths, never die in the RW world.

https://hr.uoregon.edu/employee-labor-relations/affirmative-action/affirmative-action-myths-and-realities

[DougBH]

You can’t just write “myth” by something and make it so.