How exactly did Israel manage to stay an ally after the Lavon affair and USS liberty?

What’s Rule 1 of observing a fight you’re not involved in?

Antisemites and Jew haters are like pukes that abuse children. They need to get their teeth kicked in. Sounds like advocating violence doesn’t it? But in reality that’s all that scum understand.

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They’re like an old vomit stain around here that never quite came out. This exact thread has happened literally hundreds of times in the past, and it’s always identical to the last lonely lib bigot whose priority in life is letting everyone on Hannity know how much they hate the Jewish nation.

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What are you talking about? Did you watch past the first 5 seconds Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? - ABC News

Ya just rumors😂 nothing to see here

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You mean trying to survive?? Why is that you have a problem with that? Jew hate much?

Why is that Americas problem? I dont care about jews on the other side of the world anymore thn I care about muslims on the other side of the world. People are trying to survive everywhere.

There are more Jews in the US than in Israel.

I don’t care about jews on the others side of the world anymore thn I care about muslims over there. Let them kill each other, there is 0 benefit in getting involved

From the river to the sea?

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Whoever wins wins, picking sides and getting involved in that region has never ended well. Also 36 trillion in debt giving money to a country with free healthcare and college and a higher standard of living thn us. Make it make sense

Ok then.

Damn. Grim.

I hate when a discussion starts with an interesting point and ends with “let me explain how Israel was involved in 9.11”

Come on. Explain to me why Israel would collaborate with the Saudis and Bin Laden. Make it make sense. It doesn’t. It’s insane anti-semitism.

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If we set it up like that on purpose then yeah that could be pretty dark.

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Announce your presence.

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Or else…

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No, don’t stick your nose in it.

One simple answer to this topic… Realpolitik

The obvious explanation is that US intel services were complicit in the Israeli actions listed in the OP. That explains why the reaction in Washington has been coverups instead of punishment of Israel.

US and Israeli interests have generally coincided, so it is difficult to say who is really driving things. The US MIC and security state have benefited tremendously in terms of funding and power as a result of endless wars in the Middle East that support Israel.

Pro-Israel lobbyists certainly have a lot of influence in Washington, but ultimately Israel is dependent of US aid, but if push comes to shove, Washington takes charge. That was the explanation US-Israeli of recent relations from Dr. Doctorow;

I would say that to everyone’s surprise, it looks like the head of the dog is sitting in Washington and that head decided against letting the tail wag it . . . If Israel is a proxy and proxies are expendable, if we are speaking of an American foreign policy that corresponds to the remarks of Kissinger that to be [an] enemy of the United States is dangerous, and to be a friend of United States is fatal. The situation where Israel would be controlling Washington would be a perfect scenario for fatality for Israel. And it would be sacrificed, thrown under the bus, for the furtherance of American interests. If indeed it is Washington that is calling the shots and not Israel, then I think Israel’s future is safer.
Transcript of ‘Judging Freedom,’ 24 October 2024 – Gilbert Doctorow
https://youtu.be/YDUpT9xtIN8?t=730