How do you feel about Contract Law

Politics
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It is one big country. That is a fact. We are United and not 50 separate entities.

We have a common bond.

Allan

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I see this way of looking at it as part of the problem.

We do have a common bond, but so what?

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What is it?

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The federal govt exists to SUPPORT the states. Not rule over them. Do you see any areas in the crisis where the federal govt did not support New York? Did they sent the mercy ship there? Did they send meals and PPE?

The Federal Govt should not be running the states. That is the states job. They should have a support roll.

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We are Americans and use the same language, monetary system, military etc etc

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One can see a doctor that does not take new Medicare patients. I’ll give you an example. My late mother was once denied treatment by a cardiologist who declined to take on new medicare patients. When I offered to pay out of my pocket for her treatment, his staff told me that was impossible unless she opted out of Medicare because the government considers that fraud.

Think about that for a minute. I offer to pay cash for the doctor’s services thereby alleviating the burden of payment from the taxpayer/Medicare system, and also alleviating the doctor’s office of the burden of dealing with the bureaucracy to get paid, and the government considers that fraud.

This is why libertarians like myself are so resistant to further socialization of healthcare. Health care is already way too screwed up by government as is.

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We absolutely are 50 separate entities. Only the federal government binds them. But that doesn’t make them one as far as my life is concerned. There are separate conditions and laws in every state. If it was one big country then I wouldn’t talk about leaving NJ when I retire in a couple of years. I’d stay because it isn’t any different in North Carolina or Florida. But it’s quite different.

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We don’t actually use the military, but I get your point.

I don’t know that I agree about the language.

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There are differences of course. But the constitution unites us together.

There are things the states control. There are things the constitution controls.

Texas can’t ban same sex marriages because of the equal protection clause of the constitution.

But Texas can ban casino gambling.

So your 50 separate entities is flawed.

It’s a unique situation in modern times.

There is no other country like it in the world.

Allan

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When I go to California, Kentucky, New York. Places I go to often, I understand what people are saying and can read the signs that are posted. We have an interstate highway system. And my 20 dollar bill is accepted everywhere.

Allan

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While you are correct in stating the U.S. is one big country, you ignore the fact that there are 50 states, each with its own Constitution and Government independent of the Federal Government. The “common bond” is a very generic ideal, and that is “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness” which is spelled out in the Declaration of Independence.

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Independent of the federal govt. lol.

That’s a funny one.

All laws in states have to be constitutional.

That’s not independence.

That’s dependence.

Depends on what the constitution says.

Allan

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I knew you wouldn’t understand. Carry on.

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Mainly because the federal government has assumed many powers that was never meant for it to have.

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Don’t forget about us please.

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Ah yes. Thank you.

While I agree with a lot of the points you’ve made - and agree that the Constitution can be looked at as a “contract” in a metaphorical sense - it is not a contract as defined by Contract law.

As for my personal views on the “social contract” - I don’t necessarily reject it - but nor do I consider myself to be bound to it.

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I disagree with your assessment of contract in contract law.

Not bound to it? Balderdash.

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Oh and, that’s it?

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Ok. That doesn’t change the fact that legally, its not a contract. A contract is an agreement between parties that the law will enforce.

There is no mechanism to legally enforce the Constitution on me.

That’s the wrong word. I’ll try to think of a better one.

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I have no doubt I’ll think of things to add. It’s not like I’ve kept this conversation foremost in mt mind for the last 2 days.