Sure you can:
1)-read the article
2)-post truthfully
Sure you can:
1)-read the article
2)-post truthfully
Some would argue that all 55K were for the motherâs health. Or, at least, you can bet that there will be doctors willing to say that any given abortion he does will be for the his clientâs health â be it financial health, emotional health, or some other âhealthâ factor.
Itâs a great deflection point, to harp on the word âthousandsâ.
More to the point, has there been ANY?
its not reasonable to assume at all
I donât know the numbers, I donât have the research at the tips of my fingers, but, I donât believe that 100 motherâs aborted their babies due to their health in ant state.
Iâve made it to a ripe age and I have know 1 mother in my lifetime that would fit that criteria and she gave her life for her child. She was diagnosed with brain cancer while she was pregnant and decided to to save her childâs life and take her chances waiting to be treated. She did pass when her son was 4 months old. Women who âwantâ their babies donât kill them.
I donât believe that many of you honestly believe that 99% of abortions are not performed out of convenience. It is a stain on our society.
I wonât disagree that the health of the mother may be just an excuse for many. But not for all 55,000.
Today thatâs the case. But when âhealthâ becomes the easy exception to a stricter ban, doctors will come out of the woodwork willing to sign off on all sorts of creative âhealthâ reasons to keep their abortion businesses flowing.
It is until you provide some stats proving different.
In the absence of data, any assumption could be reasonable to one person or another. And the argument subsequently shifts from the assumption to the definition of âreasonableâ. And that argument wonât be worth the time it takes to engage it.
Right now, with the legality of abortion on demand, no reason needs to be given. Thus there is no need to couch oneâs decision to abort in any legal pigeonhole like âmotherâs healthâ.
A lot of this discussion point came from my assertion that âSome would argue that all 55K were for the motherâs health.â Once stricter limits on âon-demandâ abortions get set, the exception clauses will become battlegrounds. Any abortion could be argued necessary (whether ethically so or not) for the motherâs health. Maybe she says she canât tolerate morning sickness. Maybe stretch marks threaten her career. Maybe a doctor would certify that the baby would threaten her financial health. Or emotional health. Or maybe her baby daddy threatens to leave her.
I wasnât saying that any of the 55K in 2017 were specifically for the motherâs health. I was suggesting that in the future, when âhealthâ is an exception, any abortion could still be legally justified. And once thatâs in place, THEN we will start getting data about that category.
I get what your saying and donât disagree that people will âadjustâ their perspective to get what they want however the rules are written (remember the Mom that used to say, âTell them youâre 12â).
That said, I suspect the number is out there somewhere already (or somebodyâs best guess), but I havenât seen it⌠nor am I inclined to try to find it since itâs not readily available.
Using the maternal death rate (inflated) of 19 per 1,000 live births, we get 1,045.
That appeared quite high.
I gotâŚ
The National Center for Health Statistics reported 658 maternal deaths, 277 late maternal deaths, and 3,791,712 live births in 2018, yielding an maternal mortality rate of 17.4 per 100,000 live births and a late maternal mortality rate of 7.2 per 100,000 live births.8
Rigorous studies carried out by the National Center for Health Statistics show that previously reported increases in maternal mortality rates in the United States were an artifact of changes in surveillance. The pregnancy checkbox, introduced in the...
So that would make only about 10.
Yeah, 19 is high. They played with how they are coded to get the numbers they wanted. Even using the bigger number, itâs not high.
WHO estimates that in a developed region what they consider an unsafe abortion will result in 30 deaths of the women for every 100,000 abortions. In undeveloped regions that rate rises to 220 per 100,000.
Fact sheet on preventing unsafe abortion: Scope of the problem, who is at risk, signs and symptoms, treatment and care, prevention and control and economic impact.
Maternal deaths donât tell us how many abortions are done for the sake of the motherâs health.
At best it tells us who did NOT get an abortion, else they would not have died from childbirth.
It tells us how many mothers die trying to carry to term. Which gives us an idea of how many times a womanâs life is in danger.
A woman who aborts her baby for convenience is not a âmotherâ.
That was how I was looking at it.
Knew a family that ALMOST lost the Mom due to AME. Amniotic embolism. Barely saved her. Lost her leg. Many surgeries afterward. Almost impossible to detect and prevent.
Maternal death. The number of women who die of amniotic fluid embolism (mortality rate) is very high. The numbers vary, but as many as 20 percent of maternal deaths in developed countries may be due to amniotic fluid embolisms.
Delivery, amnioinfusion and drinking more fluids might be recommended when amniotic fluid is found to be low.
You think an abortion would prevent the maternal death for that diagnosis?
No. That is 20% of the maternal fatalities we do have.
Just like a lynch mob arenât âneighborsâ.