Higher Education in America – too expensive, takes too much time, has a limited “shelf-life", and consists of a great deal of content that has limited practical value

No they don’t.

A recent report from Intelligent showed that a whopping 38% of companies are avoiding hiring recent college graduates. The report also noted that 58% of managers and executives believe the most recent grads are unprepared for real work.

Of those polled, the majority reported that America’s young adults have unrealistic salary expectations, cannot hold eye contact, don’t dress appropriately, and simply aren’t willing or able to follow the necessary requirements of the job.

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Society is waking up to this scam!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/only-2-ivy-league-schools-land-grads-a-six-figure-salary-10-years-out-and-almost-half-of-mba-s-are-a-waste-of-money-data-suggests/ar-BB1nWLZt?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=63c20385a24d4757ae7d509d14c6ecee&ei=32

*A massive survey of Gen Z workers found that 40% of people aged between 16 and 26 did not believe they needed a university degree to have a successful career. *

It perhaps explains why the youngest generation of workers are shunning college (and with it, the prospect of a corporate career) to take up traditional trades like welding, plumbing, and carpentry.

Enrollment in vocational-focused community colleges rose 16% last year to its highest level since the National Student Clearinghouse began tracking such data in 2018. Meanwhile, the same data shows a 23% surge in students studying construction trades in 2023 compared to the year before.

*“People are starting to smell a rat,” Mike Rowe, the CEO of MikeRoweWorks Foundation, commented on the shift, adding that blue-collar jobs “are a straight path to a six-figure job” without the burden of debt. *

Take Chase Gallagher, for example: The 23-year-old started his lawn mowing side hustle as a teenager and it’s now generating more than $1 million in revenue.

“I just didn’t see the ROI in going to university,” the Gen Zer told Fortune. “You can still be a 1% income earner here in America and be a trades business owner.”

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Certainly seems so. Now to get some into government…

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

It looks like employers are getting it too:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/this-company-is-stressing-skills-over-college-degrees-cnn-correspondent-explains-why/vi-BB1oWlgn?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=47f7baab347a4c96beed64e478d1320a&ei=45

Absolutely terrible example or reason to skip college.

That doesn’t mean i disagree that it should be skipped for some if not many.

A more practical approach to “higher education” would be a much more prudent way to go:

Sitting in lecture halls listening (or more likely daydreaming) to largely boring lectures is completely useless.

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Good stuff in there.

Interesting the comment on nursing. A college degree is not necessary for nurses. The guilds convince regulators to make degrees requirements so they can control who and how many get in. And influence associated money.

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Yep! Higher education is all about power, control and enriching those who control the system! But a change is coming:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/nearly-half-of-americans-say-having-a-college-degree-is-less-important-now-than-it-was-20-years-ago/ar-BB1mW9DG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=2c8d05ce0e6d4c829805da651a9df5df&ei=57

Liberal Arts degrees are becoming more and more worthless today and the good degrees (typically STEM related) are almost like a different form of trade school. The good news is that American are waking up to the shortcomings of our college system:

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Having a degree in Liberal Arts is one thing,
having a basic understanding of the liberal arts (basic knowledge) is another.

For decades teachers in NY (and presumably other states), had to pass a standardized test called the Liberal Arts and Sciences test. It is a multiple-choice test, (both a plus and a minus)

  • Are spiders insects?
  • Why is a tomato called a “fruit?”
  • Was Julius Ceasar a supporter of the plebians or patricians? Was he a - dictator or a republican?
  • Why is a Monet painting considered impressionist? And what makes a painting by Monet different from one by da Vinci, Van Gogh, or Wyeth?
  • What is 50% of 50% expressed as a fraction?
  • For centuries when issuing paper currency governments would “sequester” precious metals (such as gold.) What do they “sequester” today?
  • When you deposit money in a bank, does the bank store that money in its vault?
  • Why did the early American colonists consider the Native Americans to be “barbarians?”
  • etc..

Part of the great unfolding of America is that such tests are no anger required, in fact they are often considered “racist.” Yes, America’s teaches really are becoming dumber.
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But the concept applies not just to teaching. In a LOT of fields, such a marketing, management, international business, journalism etc., it is helpful, indeed necessary, to hire a person who is “smart” and having a particular skill set such as pounding nails or programming a robot is simply insufficient.

—> 1-2 years of basic “general education” as a required part of a college degree? consider me a fan.

→ A liberal arts degree? Sounds to me like a waste of time and money.

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More evidence that Americans are waking up!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/just-one-third-of-students-say-college-is-worth-the-cost/ss-BB1nGXWC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=d64a107cafa64474a44027170aac846d&ei=171

Anyone who says “college is for everyone” is an idiot who shouldn’t be in college.

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More and more Americans are coming to the realization that college is by no means for everyone:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/us-colleges-are-closing-at-an-alarming-rate-list-of-public-and-private-school-closures/ar-AA1oKK9c?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=323bac5f334f463898a96bc6cb6ede67&ei=33

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If you’re not in a STEM or business/finance major it’s probably a waste of time and money.

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It’s not alarming to me.

Jim Koch agrees!

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Good thing my degree will be a Bachelor’s of Science, Business Administration with my major of Business Management. Have submitted my resume to a couple of places a week or so ago, hopefully will hear something soon.

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This is the one

From the link:

Rowe pointed to research from economist Nicholas Eberstadt in his book “Men Without Work,” who has long warned about the troubling trend. According to Eberstadt, more than 7 million men of prime working age have dropped out of the labor force entirely.

Rowe believes this problem is being made worse by a cultural overemphasis on traditional higher education, which he says steers people away from skilled trades, even as thousands of trade jobs remain unfilled.

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