Hey Fox News. The Democrat Leadership does not want to end capitalism in the U.S

See California and NY… And we know 1/2 the dem party wants a Venezuela type govt…

I don’t see that happening in CA or NY.

Pretty much no one in the Democratic Party wants a Venezuela type govt.

:roll_eyes:

The Democrat Party Leadership is infested with those who display the characteristics of socialists and communists, e.g.:

They do not defend rights associated with property ownership,

they reject people being free to mutually agree in their contracts and associations,

they intentionally use the force of taxation to rob the property of an identifiable group of people, which they then “redistribute” to another identifiable group for that group’s personal economic needs, . . . and they do so in return for that groups vote which helps to keep these communists and socialists in powers while they live large on the taxpayer’s dime:

Have you forgotten one of the first pieces of legislation Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez supported was a “cost of living pay increase” of $4,500 for her and members of Congress, which would be paid for by taxing her constituents?

Apparently, $285,000 a year [pay plus benefits] is not enough for her, while her constituents’ average earnings are under $60K!

Someday those who vote for socialists and communists who offer free government cheese may to realize the only ones who really benefit under such proposals are those handing out the government cheese, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who now happily lives large on her constituents dime

JWK

. They are neither “liberal” or" progressive". The Democrat Party Leadership is infested with notoriously evil communists and socialists who delude, lure and addict our nations needy with free government cheese used to buy votes which keeps the needy and underprivileged enslaved and dependent.

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”

Sums up “progressive” tax schemes pretty well, I’d say.

BLM is most definitely communist.

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Capitalism, free enterprise whatever you want to call it. I’ve never had enough money to care what it’s called. The Dems only want to suck the government dry of as much as they possibly can. The 300 billion left from the first stimulus bill from this year that has just been sitting has not just been sitting for no reason. Otherwise Pelosi would not have gotten so peeved when Trump decided to use it. I don’t think the Dems that we are used to are in full control of their side of the isle. There is more going on than meets the eye.

Welcome to the Forum.

Please make sure you read the rules.

Repeating it ad nauseum it doesn’t make it so.

The Republicans intentionally use the force of taxation to rob the property of an identifiable group of people, which they then use to build a wall on the southern border . . . and they do so in return for votes which helps to keep these conservatives in power while they live large on the taxpayer’s dime.

It’s still a job and job salaries come with cost of living increases once in a while. How much do you think they should make a year?

Do you think AOC is the only congress member who gets votes by promising to do things while collecting a salary funded by tax payer money?

Are you claiming that progressive taxation is Marxism?

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”

I don’t see how anyone capable of critical thinking could see an incongruency between the above statement and a progressive tax scheme or wealth redistribution in general.

The statement is obviously the principle underlying both.

Would you prefer,

“To each according to their ability, with nothing to each according to their need”?

Well if you aren’t claiming that progressive taxation is Marxism, why did you bring it up?

The quote: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” was apparently brought up because it personifies another characteristic defining communism, a characteristic which is advocated by the communist/socialist controlled Democrat Leadership, e.g.:

When the Democrat Party Leadership advocates like a communist, lives like a communist, and displays other characteristics which define communists, surely they must be COMMUNISTS.

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants.

Progressive taxation is not unique Marxism… unless you are claiming the USA has been Marxist since we started having one. Are you?

I don’t think there would be taxation under communism because there’s nothing to tax.

I responded to this same statement over here.

Which is a “progressive” tax scheme.

Exactly! One of the identifying characteristics which define communists is their love affair with a “progressive” tax scheme, which is used to accomplish the following:

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”

JWK

They are neither “liberals” nor “progressives”. They are conniving Marxist/Communist/Socialist parasites who use government force to steal and then enjoy the property which labor, business and investors have worked to create.

:roll_eyes:

But both Marxists and Progressive Leaders live by the same oppressive rule when it comes to taxation:

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”

The fact is, when the Democrat Party Leadership advocates characteristics which identify communist thinking, surely the must be COMMUNISTS.

JWK

The walkaway movement is the socialist/communist democrat leadership’s worse nightmare

Again, progressive taxation is not unique to Marxism.

Are claiming the USA has been Marxist since we started having one?

The Nazis were anti-communist, very nationalistic, and not fond of GLBT people, just like U.S. conservatives. Does that mean U.S. conservatives are Nazis? Of course not, because such simplistic thinking is stupid, juvenile, and leads to making inaccurate statements.

No one said it was, and, you are repeating yourself and ignoring the fact that both Marxists and Progressive Leaders live by the same oppressive rule when it comes to taxation:

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”

JWK

Joe Biden and the Democrat Leadership wants elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their healthcare revenue with the millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

Not really. For Marxist the context is that each person gives labor according to his ability and receives what they need for life. To apply this to a system of progressive taxation and welfare it would really be “From each according to their ability to pay, to each who needs help living a decent life.” These are two different mindsets.

Well, that confirms both communist and progressive leaders have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the needy.

In other words, they do not embrace and support a fundamental maxim:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s property

There is an enormous distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the needy. The communist/socialist controlled Democrat Party Leadership advocates tax tyranny to support the needy, i.e., using the power of direct taxation to rob the property earned by a hard working person in exchange for his/her labor, which is then redistributed by the hand of government to another individual for their personal economic needs. Under these circumstances there is no magic wand which changes an act amounting the theft and tyranny. One of our notable forefathers summarized this principle as follows:

“Under a just and equal Government, every individual is entitled to protection in the enjoyment of the whole product of his labor, except such portion of it as is necessary to enable Government to protect the rest; this is given only in consideration of the protection offered. In every bounty, exclusive right, or monopoly, Government violates the stipulation on her part; for, by such a regulation, the product of one man’s labor is transferred to the use and enjoyment of another. The exercise of such a right on the part of Government can be justified on no other principle, than that the whole product of the labor or every individual is the real property of Government, and may be distributed among the several parts of the community by government discretion; such a supposition would directly involve the idea, that every individual in the community is merely a slave and bondsman to Government, who, although he may labor, is not to expect protection in the product of his labor. An authority given to any Government to exercise such a principle, would lead to a complete system of tyranny.” ___ See Representative Giles, speaking before Congress February 3rd, 1792

Tell me, fallenturtle , are you so blind to not see the injustice when direct taxation is used in such a fashion? When a political party’s leadership goes so far as to disrespecting rights associated with property ownership, and uses its power to confiscate the property of one individual which is then transferred to another individual by the hand of government, are you really incapable of seeing the injustice of such an act?

JWK

“The property which every man has in his own labor, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable. The patrimony of the poor man lies in the strength and dexterity of his own hands; and to hinder him from employing this strength and dexterity in what manner he thinks proper, without injury to his neighbor, is a plain violation of this most sacred property.” ___ Butchers’ Union Co. v. Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746 (1884)