Hey Democrats, Fighting Fair Is for Suckers

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

To make a new State out of an existing State, one would have to have both the consent of that State, and Congress.

Says who?

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[NebraskaFootball]

@WuWei

American citizens are not peasants and the wealthy princes won’t fight.

They most certainly are in the eyes of the wealthy. You know this is true. And the “princes” would not have to fight, to implement their will.

[conan]

No they won’t risk dying…but don’t think for one moment gains can’t be made in such a case whether it’s monetary or politically.

You seem to think just the peasants are angry.

And here you accuse me of being nearsighted and lack of imagination.

[NebraskaFootball]

@WuWei

How do you think they’ll stop it?

Financial Armageddon. Starve the peasants of their access to material goods and necessities, such as utilities and consumables.

[conan]

Good example.

Had to quote to see the name.

But great example.

[WuWei]

@NebraskaFootball

I’ve been asking you what you envision here. Lay out the scenario that leads to an overthrow of the Centgov and the creation of a new reality, whatever that may be at the conclusion of the fall of the Centgov.

What? Overthrow Centgov? No! Dissolving of the union. Peaceful secession. No Ft. Sumters.

@NebraskaFootball

Nah, that is completely hyperbolic. It did not affect me one single iota. The creation of Medicare affected me. Not the ACA though.

Ok, if you say so.

@NebraskaFootball

Then there should be examples that are easy to point to in the last 25-30 years that support this claim. I’m interested to hear about them.

This is why I get aggravated with you. This right here. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq.

[NebraskaFootball]

@conan

No they won’t risk dying…but don’t think for one moment gains can’t be made in such a case whether it’s monetary or politically.

You seem to think just the peasants are angry.

And here you accuse me of being nearsighted and lack of imagination.

I did no such thing. Which is why I am not discussing this with you. You lack honesty Conan.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

I tried.

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Hardly.

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[Plasmaball]

sigh i think a lot of you need to research how we got to this point and how Trump is just another part of the overall partisanship of life. Weve been doing this throughout history, we just dont use swords anymore.

[conan]

The peasants are the goods, the materials and they have access to all of it.

In fact you can say they have full control.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

To make a new State out of an existing State, one would have to have both the consent of that State, and Congress.

So not very likely.

With DC, you have around 600,000 people that do not enjoy the same level of representation that everyone in else in the country does.

It is a completely separate concern.

Only until the next one does it citing precedence.

What precedent would be established by creating a new State out of a section of the country that is currently not a State?

[WuWei]

@NebraskaFootball

Why do they not know how to win? What defines winning for you?

Because they haven’t been allowed to or been told when they did. That depends on The Mission.

@NebraskaFootball

No it did not. And no, I did not talk about sending Centgov troops to force you to do anything. Where did you get that from? Your own hypothetical of troops coming to confiscate your arms? Something I said would never happen?

To keep me from seceding. If Texas secedes, where do you have to send troops to stop it? I require you to think.

Confiscation of arms was an example if potential triggers to secession.

Come on man.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

What precedent would be established by creating a new State out of a section of the country that is currently not a State?

The precedent of a city state.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

To make a new State out of an existing State, one would have to have both the consent of that State, and Congress.

Says who?

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The Constitution

“New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

[NebraskaFootball]

@WuWei

What? Overthrow Centgov? No! Dissolving of the union. Peaceful secession. No Ft. Sumters.

You believe a scenario exists where a peaceful secession will occur? What happened during the last attempt at secession?

@WuWei

This is why I get aggravated with you. This right here. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq.

Here is what you said…“raggedy-assed amateurs destroying national will?” How was national will destroyed in any of the above examples, as they relate in context to the discussion of my question, which was, “What recent history has examples of US cities falling to armed revolution?”

No US cities fell in Afghanistan, Iraq, or Vietnam. You’re not making sense.

[conan]

Did you not call me myopic 2 times in this thread?

Lets take a look what myopic means shell we?

nearsighted.
synonyms: nearsighted; shortsighted
“a myopic patient”
antonyms: farsighted

lacking imagination, foresight, or intellectual insight.

[WuWei]

The Constitution is irrelevant.

[NebraskaFootball]

@conan

Did you not call me myopic 2 times in this thread?

Lets take a look what myopic means shell we?

nearsighted.
synonyms: nearsighted; shortsighted
“a myopic patient”
antonyms: farsighted

lacking imagination, foresight, or intellectual insight.

Fair enough. You are right. I was wrong. My apologies.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

What precedent would be established by creating a new State out of a section of the country that is currently not a State?

The precedent of a city state.

Which is not part of any previously existing State.

Once again I will ask… is land represented or are people?

[conan]

Hmm. I’m tipping my hat.