WuWei
May 28, 2020, 8:39pm
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Adam:
“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
This has been quoted, requoted, paraphrased a whole bunch of times. But this is my favorite version and it’s still one of my favorite quotes of all time.
I understand why you didn’t, but you need to attribute your source.
It’s cute. It also is a) one person’s opinion, childlike in itself and b) not supported by history or reality.
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Adam
May 28, 2020, 8:41pm
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WuWei:
Adam:
“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
This has been quoted, requoted, paraphrased a whole bunch of times. But this is my favorite version and it’s still one of my favorite quotes of all time.
I understand why you didn’t, but you need to attribute your source.
It’s cute. It also is a) one person’s opinion, childlike in itself and b) not supported by history or reality.
I’ll add it. This version is John Rogers. He’s a screenwriter.
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Adam
May 28, 2020, 8:43pm
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WuWei:
Adam:
“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
This has been quoted, requoted, paraphrased a whole bunch of times. But this is my favorite version and it’s still one of my favorite quotes of all time.
I understand why you didn’t, but you need to attribute your source.
It’s cute. It also is a) one person’s opinion, childlike in itself and b) not supported by history or reality.
But please tell me why I didn’t attribute it? I’ll save time. I forgot to add it.
WuWei
May 28, 2020, 8:44pm
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Ok, that’s reason enough.
Adam
May 28, 2020, 8:46pm
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WuWei:
Adam:
“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
This has been quoted, requoted, paraphrased a whole bunch of times. But this is my favorite version and it’s still one of my favorite quotes of all time.
I understand why you didn’t, but you need to attribute your source.
It’s cute. It also is a) one person’s opinion, childlike in itself and b) not supported by history or reality.
It is cute. And a) Of course it’s one person’s opinion. Just like every single opinion on Earth. And I think quite witty and perceptive. And b) that’s your opinion. I think it is supported by history and reality. You ever talk to people who quote or reference Atlas Shrugged frequently? It’s rough. Give me a Lord of the Rings fan.
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WuWei
May 28, 2020, 8:52pm
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Witty? Well, he’s qualified for that.
How many of those people do you think truly understand what they read? Or even read the whole thing? Or have ever read anything else in the Russian style?
The people I have run into who claim it is one of two books that will change a 14 year-old girl’s life either never read it or didn’t understand it.
Same with a lot of books. The Bible, Handmaid’s Tale. I believe most people these days who read at all do so through a lens of watching a movie. They never pause and think about things. Never question what they just read.
Small thinking rules the day.
We are also a very results oriented society and horribly subject to confirmation bias.
WuWei:
Same with a lot of books. The Bible, Handmaid’s Tale. I believe most people these days who read at all do so through a lens of watching a movie. They never pause and think about things. Never question what they just read.
Small thinking rules the day.
We are also a very results oriented society and horribly subject to confirmation bias.
Good stuff!
I think you would, if you haven’t read it already, enjoy “Thinking Fast and Slow” by Daniel Kahneman. Nobel Prize for Economics for exploring all sorts of cognitive biases.
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WuWei
May 28, 2020, 9:01pm
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I may have, but I will put it on my list. Many thanks.
JayJay
May 28, 2020, 9:12pm
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Does anyone here find it extremely funny that one of the first choices for a real life match to a protagonist of a novel written by a self-proclaimed objectivist but who ended her days on the government dole for her lung cancer…
…was a guy who is where he is due to billions in federal subsidies?
I do.
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Jezcoe
May 28, 2020, 9:17pm
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JayJay:
Does anyone here find it extremely funny that one of the first choices for a real life match to a protagonist of a novel written by a self-proclaimed objectivist but who ended her days on the government dole for her lung cancer…
…was a guy who is where he is due to billions in federal subsidies?
I do.
Don’t you remember the part in Atlas Shrugged where John Galt invented a payment app and sold it for a crap ton of money and then went to become a government contractor?
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JayJay
May 28, 2020, 9:26pm
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WuWei:
JayJay:
Does anyone here find it extremely funny that one of the first choices for a real life match to a protagonist of a novel written by a self-proclaimed objectivist but who ended her days on the government dole for her lung cancer…
…was a guy who is where he is due to billions in federal subsidies?
I do.
Who would you choose?
Isabel Patterson.
She was one of the few who lived out her libertarian ideals.
IIRC, every one of her Social Security checks was left unopened.
Jezcoe
May 28, 2020, 9:27pm
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WuWei:
Who would you choose?
If anything… Musk is more like Wyatt.
The dude literally knocked a few billion off of the value of his company with a tweet.
He will righteously destroy the company and screw the shareholders.
WuWei
May 28, 2020, 9:29pm
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Jezcoe:
If anything… Musk is more like Wyatt.
The dude literally knocked a few billion off of the value of his company with a tweet.
He will righteously destroy the company and screw the shareholders.
Fair enough. Who is today’s Gault?
JayJay
May 28, 2020, 9:30pm
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She built Atlas Shrugged .
Jezcoe
May 28, 2020, 9:30pm
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No one.
There is no one sociopathic enough to literally invent free energy that would change the world and then go hide out in sci fi valley because socialism.
WuWei
May 28, 2020, 9:32pm
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We’re talking about two different things. I’m not asking you for a better Rand, I’m asking you for today’s Gault.
