I don’t need people to tell me how to think. We have a publicly funded school system (K-12) here in Michigan, and I could see paying a little more of a universal system up to college.
It doesn’t need to be funded through the federal government.
Not when one considers the arbitrary use of government power or control.
Under what wording beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1, which gives a list of particulars for which Congress may tax and spend, is a power authorized to Congress to allow Congress to tax one individual to finance the costs of another individual’s college?
You seem to not agree with our constitution, nor the thinking of founders, and a primary function of government.
Under a just and equal Government, every individual is entitled to protection in the enjoyment of the whole product of his labor, except such portion of it as is necessary to enable Government to protect the rest; this is given only in consideration of the protection offered. In every bounty, exclusive right, or monopoly, Government violates the stipulation on her part; for, by such a regulation, the product of one man’s labor is transferred to the use and enjoyment of another. The exercise of such a right on the part of Government can be justified on no other principle, than that the whole product of the labor or every individual is the real property of Government, and may be distributed among the several parts of the community by government discretion; such a supposition would directly involve the idea, that every individual in the community is merely a slave and bondsman to Government, who, although he may labor, is not to expect protection in the product of his labor. An authority given to any Government to exercise such a principle, would lead to a complete system of tyranny."
See Representative Giles, speaking before Congress February 3rd, 1792
JWK
"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Association v. Topeka,(1875).
You are the one who rolled their eyes at my use of "tax tyranny" and said I have “a very liberal view of the word: Tyranny.” I simply provided evidence our federal government is not authorized to tax one individual to finance the costs of another individual’s college. To do so is an unauthorized and "arbitrary use of power or control". . . and the very definition of tyranny.
Keep in mind we are talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialist/communist "Green New Deal" … which just happens to be federal.
If you really want to see to see the student loan scam ended, then stop the federal government’s financing student loans.
JWK
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialism will promise food on the table, free public housing, health care for all, free college tuition, and other niceties by taxing the so called rich; and if by chance her leadership gains control because of such promises made, the end result, as John Adams stated, “will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel”
The green new deal is being put to a vote in the Senate, I just read.
How’s that working in Michigan?
While slightly more third graders were rated proficient this past year (44.4 percent, up from 44.1 percent) in tests that measure reading and writing, there was an even greater increase in the percent who showed no (as opposed to partial) proficiency.
Across all 15 tests in math, English and social studies (across seven grade levels), overall proficiency rates were down on 10 of those tests – while the percent rated “not proficient” rose in 12 of the 15.
that is what happens when the Republicans in the legislature use the school fund to plug shortfalls in the general budget every year.z
Wrong. That is what happens when public school systems are used for institutions of indoctrination rather than teaching the three Rs.
Are we to forget how innocent children were instructed to sing praise to Obama?
JWK
In every communist dictatorial oppressive country, like Cuba, the people are disarmed. Forewarned is forearmed.
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That depends on what your definition of “clean” is.
Well, highroller?
JWK
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialism will promise food on the table, free public housing, health care for all, free college tuition, and other niceties by taxing the so called rich; and if by chance her leadership gains control because of such promises made, the end result, as John Adams stated, “will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel”
Its so funny. Do they tell them of this consequence
I don’t know about the “Green New Deal” but the federal government can collect taxes to pay for college if they would want without an amendment. Just like we have the department of education and the department of defense, we have many different departments of government paid for by tax money.
And where is that power delegated in the Constitution? Do you not support and defend the rule of law, and consent of the governed using Article V as intended by our Founders?
JWK
"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law , 1858.
Yeah. “No show votes” McConnel is doing just that.
If it was actual legislation it would never see the floor.
If it keeps going the way it is, Bachelor’s degrees will only be as valuable as a high school diploma a couple decades ago. The fedgov should have no part in school loans.
What rules allowed them to expand the government when they did? If it was unconstitutional, why hasn’t it been challenged?
And, the United States most certainly is not oil independent.
You shouldn’t be going to college just for a degree, you should be going to build a skill that will make you employable until retirement. If you want to go to college to “grow as a human”, then you should fund that without debt. Honestly, more high schools should push students who aren’t academically competitive towards trades apprenticeships. That would be far more valuable to them than college.
If the government were to pay for college. There should be an expectation that there is a usefulness from the degree.
Electrical Engineer = Yes!
Nuclear Physicist = Yes!
Humanities = Pay for your own studies.
Trade school to learn how to build and/or fix things = Yes!
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I agree with you, but was just saying Bachelor degrees will be cheapened by making them so easy to obtain.
My question to you is, where in the Constitution is Congress authorized to tax for and finance the costs of a college education?
JWK
