Snow96
July 30, 2018, 5:41pm
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uuuh floodplains and wetlands are two different things.
For example, most of my city is in the floodplain of a mountain canyon. The local home depot has a man made wetland behind their building for runoff from their parking lot and building. Utah requires those on all new developments. You can see cat o nines growing in there and a lot of the “natural” wetlands plants and such.
Borgia
July 30, 2018, 8:13pm
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That’s a great question! Who should we ask to answer that question? Climatologists or Rush Limbaugh?
There is disagreement amongst the experts. LIBs declare the debate to be over, but its not.
Cynic:
Like I said, inform yourself, this is really pathetic. At no point have we had a net gain in wetland conversions over any time period, much less gain ground.
From the USDA itself.
Wetlands Values and Trends | NRCS
To make it simple for you:
“During his administration, President Bush supported a national goal of “no net loss” of wetlands. President Clinton has called for a long-term gain in wetlands. The goal of “no net loss” refers to the Nation’s overall wetland base; there must be a balance between wetland losses and gains in the short run and an increase in wetlands acreage in the long run. Although we have not achieved that goal…”
Where exactly is it that I said we’d had a net gain in wetlands?
Samm
July 30, 2018, 8:28pm
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Call_me_Ishmael:
Polar bears are vicious … with insatiable hunger.
For every polar bear that gets stranded on ice, a thousand baby seals cheer. Global warming is saving baby seals!
When you start you start your car, a momma seal thanks the Lord.
We polar bears have switched from eating seals to eating ecotourists.
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Don’t you think it odd that the people who actually know more of the facts (especially compared to you or I) of global warming mostly come down on the side of man made warming?
Why are you resorting to attacking them?
I’m not attacking anyone. The fact remains that none of them can demonstrate that CO2 is the problem or that if it even is to what degree.
Science has been reduced to nothing more than dogma when it comes to AGW.
It’s based on the known record as demonstrated.
Neither can any other chart of the previous cycles so you have nothing to compare it to.
Chris:
The Article you linked to titled, “Why the Globe Hasn’t Warmed Much for the Past Decade” is dated from March of 2013. Since that time, 2016 was the hottest year on record globally with 2015 and 2017 essentially being tied for the 2nd hottest year on record globally. And this year 2018 (with strong La Niña conditions during the first few months of this year) is on track to becoming the 4th hottest year on record globally.
Those “record years” were "record years by fractions of degrees below the margin of error.
Samm
July 30, 2018, 8:33pm
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My estimation has nothing to do with it, but yes, the average global temperature is warmer now than it was 30 (and more) years ago. Why do you ask?
Funny. It’s like you dont understand what velocity is. Here: take the velocity / slope and draw it. Where are we in 100 years? K thx bye
Well then I guess your chart is worthless since it doesnt show velocities in the centuries. Stick to your day job (if you have one)
You can’t calculate the velocity without accurate data none of which exists from the previous cycles as all we have are estimates over long periods of time.
I see you’re now moving the goalposts and squirming. The fact is the data shows rapid acceleration at a dangerous velocity in our temperatures over the last 75 years. I’m sorry that the facts arent politically convenient for you.
Dont dodge. Using the data we have now and the velocity, where are we in 100 years? K thx bye
We have actual data to work with from less than 2 centuries to work with, that’s it.
Since 1880 the best available numbers show we’ve had less than a 2c increase in global temps which is still well below the previous highs.
Why would I assume the velocity is going to remain constant when the only constant in our climate is change?
And here you are posting charts that go back 10,000s of years made by the same scientists who say global warming is man made lmao
The only movement of the goalposts here is your own.