Giving poor citizens money

[DougBH]

@PeterGriffin

There’s the ideological split between Dems and Trump Party members.

As Democrats flood our country with unskilled and uneducated illegals from Latin America, I guess they will have to distribute money to the poor, as there will be little leverage and fewer opportunities for them to earn decent wages.

[PeterGriffin]

@DougBH

As Democrats flood our country with unskilled and uneducated illegals from Latin America, I guess they will have to distribute money to the poor, as there will be little leverage and fewer opportunities for them to earn decent wages.

lol aaaaand we’re off!

[biggestal99]

@Jezcoe

Subsidies are good as long as they go to people we like

Like Foxcon.

Corporate welfare good

People welfare bad.

Allan

[Auto129]

Giving money is better than giving nothing, but I prefer larger welfare or subsidy programs over both options.

The government has enough spending power to bargin with big actors in the market. The same amount of money divided among individuals just leaves them all negotiating at a disadvantage.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@Snow96

@biggestal99

So let’s hear from the other side against cash payments.

Lets continue to teach people that the governent is there to give you free money. Have more kids, well look at that more free money.

So in other words, the more babies they have the more money they get. Yeah, sounds like a great idea. Just shows the level of stupidity of some of our lawmakers.

[biggestal99]

@Eagle-Keeper

So in other words, the more babies they have the more money they get. Yeah, sounds like a great idea. Just shows the level of stupidity of some of our lawmakers.

Beats abortions,

Allan

[FloridaYankee]

@Toll_Collector

Otherwise I suggest they get a second job. Or in most cases, a first job

Busting the Myth of ‘Welfare Makes People Lazy’

[Toll_Collector]

I wasn’t suggesting welfare makes people lazy, I think they were lazy to begin with. Born lazy. I’ve grown up with some. Everyone knows the type. They didn’t need any encouragement.

Everyone has a standard of living they’re willing to accept. Some that continue to work hard may not be content. Some are content at a low standard if it means they don’t have to work. Programs don’t change people’s internal motivation.

If someone came to me and said, I’ll pay you what you’re currently making, you can either continue to work or not. I’m quite content right now, I’d probably retire. Someone else may see it as an opportunity to make double. In both cases it’s the person that made that decision, not the program.

[biggestal99]

@Toll_Collector

If someone came to me and said, I’ll pay you what you’re currently making, you can either continue to work or not. I’m quite content right now, I’d probably retire.

And I am the opposite. I will be working until I die.

Allan

[FloridaYankee]

@Toll_Collector

I wasn’t suggesting welfare makes people lazy, I think they were lazy to begin with. Born lazy. I’ve grown up with some. Everyone knows the type. They didn’t need any encouragement.

Everyone has a standard of living they’re willing to accept. Some that continue to work hard may not be content. Some are content at a low standard if it means they don’t have to work. Programs don’t change people’s internal motivation.

If someone came to me and said, I’ll pay you what you’re currently making, you can either continue to work or not. I’m quite content right now, I’d probably retire. Someone else may see it as an opportunity to make double. In both cases it’s the person that made that decision, not the program.

You suggested most would be getting their first’ job. That’s just ridiculous, the vast majority of recipients are hard working people.

[Toll_Collector]

@FloridaYankee

You suggested most would be getting their first’ job. That’s just ridiculous, the vast majority of recipients are hard working people.

You misinterpreted what I said. I didn’t mean a first job ever.

[FloridaYankee]

I didn’t misinterpret anything. Maybe you should read what you wrote again. If you worded it poorly, well, that’s what happens.

[Toll_Collector]

@FloridaYankee

I didn’t misinterpret anything. Maybe you should read what you wrote again. If you worded it poorly, well, that’s what happens.

I meant a job in general. I only said first because I said second.

[FloridaYankee]

I didn’t think you meant first job ever lol.

[JayJay]

@Samm

@PeterGriffin

Super. The only reason the Alaska fund was mentioned was that it is unconditional cash and it’s effects on employment, just like it says.

But it’s generated using the private sector as the economic machine produce wealth. The concept of direct government payments to the poor uses money drained from the economy through taxes. Doing so is the antithesis of the PFD and, therefore, it is disingenuous to compare the two as far as the effect on employment or any other economic factor.

The money isn’t “drained from the economy”. This is your (not so) hidden and unproven assumption.

It’s cycled back in.

And if it’s an effective way of stimulating incomes for people and improving their economic outlook, then it’s a better economic stimulus than tax cuts.

[DMK]

Are these foreseen or unforeseen consequences?

Drug overdoses an unintended consequence of COVID stimulus payments, experts say

[JayJay]

There are negative consequences to every policy or program.

[Samm]

@JayJay

@Samm

@PeterGriffin

Super. The only reason the Alaska fund was mentioned was that it is unconditional cash and it’s effects on employment, just like it says.

But it’s generated using the private sector as the economic machine produce wealth. The concept of direct government payments to the poor uses money drained from the economy through taxes. Doing so is the antithesis of the PFD and, therefore, it is disingenuous to compare the two as far as the effect on employment or any other economic factor.

The money isn’t “drained from the economy”. This is your (not so) hidden and unproven assumption.

It’s cycled back in.

And if it’s an effective way of stimulating incomes for people and improving their economic outlook, then it’s a better economic stimulus than tax cuts.

Short term stimulus; long term drain. Kicking the can down the road only works until you get to the end of the road.

[Samm]

@JayJay

There are negative consequences to every policy or program.

Yet the policies and programs continue even after the negative consequences are found to be more damaging than that which they were intended to fix. That’s Government for you. Its like the ratchet on the dungeon rack.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

incompetent and lazy people need help. Of course we should give em money. Unfortunately no one- or very few - do. Instead they give em other people’s money.