Georgia school shooting 9/4/2024

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

Which doesn’t mean ■■■■ for decision making with a gun.

You posted that ^

@PurpnGold

What’s with your appeal to intelligence for every scenario except what they are actually intelligent in. Seems like you would trust Fauci with a gun but not a vaccine because he’s “intelligent”.

Fauci is clever.

[WuWei]

@Guvnah

@Smyrna

@Samm

Insurance does not cover criminal acts.

The owner is innocent of any “criminal acts” in the example and yes…the owner would be covered.

Besides, the original question about this red herring asked about accidents. Not criminal acts.

But you’re right. Insurance covers losses from criminal acts if the insured is not the one doing the crime. Look at all the looting examples out there. A common lib dismissal of those crimes is that the looted store is covered by insurance. And they are.

I don’t know about that. Store owners were victims, insurance pays.

The father is not a victim.

[WuWei]

Chris Kyle

[TheRedComet]

I was 10 the first time with an actual gun. My granddad was careful to teach as he introduced me to them. He had already been teaching me firearms safety with an airsoft rifle before that and the transition was natural.

[Guvnah]

@DMK

So, should all parents be held responsible if their underage child commits a crime?

In my opinion, not all parents. Just the ones who contribute to the crime.

[Guvnah]

@DMK

For all of the gun grabbers. How does this make sense? Saving lives by killing a mass murderer gets you arrested.

There are a bunch of SMH quotes in the linked article.

The reason the hero (yes, HERO) got arrested:

“In Hawaii, we are a non ‘stand your ground’ state,” Honolulu Police Chief Joe Logan said, according to the Associated Press.

“Even if you have a license to carry, if you’re an individual that discharges a firearm that is involved in injuring another person … you’re going to be arrested.”

Just another reason not to live there.

And from a neighbor regarding the perpetrator:

“Hiram was really quiet guy and he always had ways of doing things, not Kosher or how you say it?” Philip Ganaban, a neighborhood board member, said. “He would fire off his gun, get drunk fire off his gun …”

Huh? That logic is reminiscent of “mostly peaceful protests” while the city block burns.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Samm

There’s what?

easy access to a mass killing weapon.

Easy? As compared to what? How it used to be?

[Samm]

@SixFoot

@Samm

Does the Army have an expert marksmanship medal for live targets?

Nope, just more badges. POG’s get a Combat Action Badge and Infantrymen get a Combat Infantryman Badge.

You get actual medals in combat for doing cool boy things like fighting while wounded, pulling a wounded buddy out of the line of fire, etc…

Seems like they out to have an expert badge for being able to shoot 36 out of 40 pigeons on the wing.

[Samm]

@Munimula1

wow- that’s crazy.

Georgia law does not otherwise expressly make it unlawful for an adult to negligently or recklessly leave unsecured firearms, including handguns and long guns, accessible to unsupervised minors.

Do people here think that should change?

What for? They arrested the Dad didn’t they?

[Samm]

@Adam

@DMK

@DougBH

My kids middle school has a permanent on site policeman.

It’s also important to note that the 14 year old was stopped by an armed campus police officer. Had a good guy with a gun not been there, perhaps the number of dead and wounded would be much higher.

I don’t know of any liberal who was against uniformed armed trained officers at schools. What we didn’t like was the idea of teachers having guns, random “good guys” being on campuses armed. I was literally on a jury for an assault charge of two dads fighting at a school while dropping off their kids. They were both horrible ■■■■■■■■■ and if one or both had been armed … think it would have made the news.

What does your “if” have to do with it? The fact that there was an arrest and trial means that it was probably on the news (if your local media was doing its job.)

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

Teachers tend to be far more intelligent than cops.

Which doesn’t mean ■■■■ for decision making with a gun.

What’s with your appeal to intelligence for every scenario except what they are actually intelligent in. Seems like you would trust Fauci with a gun but not a vaccine because he’s “intelligent”.

C’mon man, being intelligent does not preclude one from being capable with a gun. And the fact that teachers often die while attempting to protect the children (which also happened in this case) demonstrates that they have both the courage and the will to do what it takes to protect the children. Allowing teachers to have the chance to do that without being killed (instead of fruitlessly sacrificing themselves) is not only logical, it is a moral imperative.

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

C’mon man, being intelligent does not preclude one from being capable with a gun

Being intelligent does not mean someone would automatically be good with a gun. Which is what he assumes.

[Samm]

@Guvnah

@WuWei

Nope, the murder charge requires intent. It’s an over charge. It will go away. As will the cruelty to children charges. They’ll get him for manslaughter. He was negligent.

It’s where I think this will go too. The guy will plead to get the murder charges dropped.

The murder charges are ridiculous. They should be thrown out by a Judge before the arraignment takes place. In fact, given the law in Georgia, most of the charges should be dropped. At most, I see him culpable for negligence regarding abetting homicides and perhaps child neglect. There might also be statutes regarding control over a rifle belonging to a child under the age of 16 that he could be charged with. Being stupid is not (unfortunately) a crime.

[Samm]

@bigtwnvin

And gave that maniac access either with keys or the combination. That “locked safe” you mentioned wasn’t secure, the killer still had access.

C’mon man … Lanza killed his mother to get the key to the gun safe. What else could she have done?

[Samm]

@Guvnah

@DMK

So, should all parents be held responsible if their underage child commits a crime?

In my opinion, not all parents. Just the ones who contribute to the crime.

Careful. “Contribute” is a subjective word.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

C’mon man, being intelligent does not preclude one from being capable with a gun

Being intelligent does not mean someone would automatically be good with a gun. Which is what he assumes.

I didn’t say that it does and neither did he. But you are presuming that intelligence is a hindrance to teachers being capable of defending their student charges with a gun. That’s absurd.

[EternalVigilance]

@DMK

For all of the gun grabbers. How does this make sense?

It makes sense because most progressives don’t believe in self defense. You’re more likely to get charged for using a gun to defend yourself in a blue state than the criminal trying to victimize you, especially if the perp is an illegal.

[Guvnah]

@Samm

@Guvnah

In my opinion, not all parents. Just the ones who contribute to the crime.

Careful. “Contribute” is a subjective word.

Definitely a good point there. We know what our government does with definitional latitude.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

C’mon man, being intelligent does not preclude one from being capable with a gun

Being intelligent does not mean someone would automatically be good with a gun. Which is what he assumes.

Nobody said anything about “aUtOmAtiCalLy.”

Intelligent people are much, much easier to train to a higher level.

I love how you guys call cops “trained.”

[SixFoot]

@Samm

@SixFoot

@Samm

Does the Army have an expert marksmanship medal for live targets?

Nope, just more badges. POG’s get a Combat Action Badge and Infantrymen get a Combat Infantryman Badge.

You get actual medals in combat for doing cool boy things like fighting while wounded, pulling a wounded buddy out of the line of fire, etc…

Seems like they out to have an expert badge for being able to shoot 36 out of 40 pigeons on the wing.

They ought to teach POGUEs how insanely overcompensating and downright stupid they sound by trying to use basic rifle marksmanship as some kind of combat subject matter expertise.