Fox News cancels Lou Dobbs' show; pro-Trump host not expected to be back on air

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@Camp

They don’t want to be a woke target.

Don’t blame them for that.

Social media silence is the real threat.

Fox Business is hardly “woke”

He didn’t say they are. A target for the Wokies.

[Camp]

They could.

Sometimes just lifting the hand is as good as a smack and leaves no mark.

[gooddad409]

@janer

I think Fox has been walking a very fine line - do they speak to their audience, who are largely supporters of Trump and who believe that there were significant election irregularities (not confined to software issues), or do they avoid speaking about the election to avoid becoming the target of lawsuits.
IMHO, if you are a business, your customer is the viewer, and also the product you can sell to your advertisers. You may have to insure against lawsuits, you may have corporate policy that dictates what topics can be aired and what is to be avoided, but if you go out of business, it’s more likely to be because you have no more customers, and the loss of customers will affect who is willing to advertise.
Lou Dobbs’ program was highly rated, he was popular with the audience. When you stop carrying a highly rated, popular product for whatever reason, your customers will shop elsewhere. If the network is saying that Dobbs cost them money because of the lawsuit, do they not also lose money when advertisers see the drop in eyes on the screen? And I also wonder what the status of the new subscription service, Fox Nation, is and whether the cancellation of popular personalities will affect the viewing public’s willingness to subscribe.

Fox numbers have been sliding anyway since they started going in a more liberal direction.

This will make the slide worse. I still like our host Hannity and a few others but there are some folks on there now you couldn’t pay me to watch.

Alternate conservative sites are enjoying increases in their numbers.

[Jezcoe]

@gooddad409

Fox numbers have been sliding anyway since they started going in a more liberal direction.

This will make the slide worse. I still like our host Hannity and a few others but there are some folks on there now you couldn’t pay me to watch.

Alternate conservative sites are enjoying increases in their numbers.

It is nuts to think of reality as a liberal/conservative conflict.

[Camp]

Media and big tech together.

They just barely pulled it off at that.

I am glad it worked out as it did.

I like the bragging too.

[sikofit]

@Camp

They could.

Sometimes just lifting the hand is as good as a smack and leaves no mark.

So that’s a firm no, they have done no such thing. Nor have they threatened to.

[Camp]

You like that circle back rhetoric.

[sikofit]

@Camp

You like that circle back rhetoric.

And you like to make assertions that can’t be backed up

[WuWei]

@Camp

Media and big tech together.

They just barely pulled it off at that.

I am glad it worked out as it did.

I like the bragging too.

Yeah, so?

Media and big oil on the other side.

I like the bragging too. If Republicans were smart, they’d realize the enemy just gave them their battle book.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Jezcoe

@gooddad409

Fox numbers have been sliding anyway since they started going in a more liberal direction.

This will make the slide worse. I still like our host Hannity and a few others but there are some folks on there now you couldn’t pay me to watch.

Alternate conservative sites are enjoying increases in their numbers.

It is nuts to think of reality as a liberal/conservative conflict.

Well said

[WuWei]

I especially liked the “reality” part.

[Ceasar]

@gooddad409

@Smyrna

Oh…I’m absolutely shocked, shocked I tell you…that it took this long. I can also see 3 other shows potentially in Fox’s liberal crosshairs.

This will just drive more people to Newsmax.

I still watch Hannity and a couple more but there are many on fox since the liberal influence began that i simply will not watch.

Same here.

[Ceasar]

@gooddad409

@janer

I think Fox has been walking a very fine line - do they speak to their audience, who are largely supporters of Trump and who believe that there were significant election irregularities (not confined to software issues), or do they avoid speaking about the election to avoid becoming the target of lawsuits.
IMHO, if you are a business, your customer is the viewer, and also the product you can sell to your advertisers. You may have to insure against lawsuits, you may have corporate policy that dictates what topics can be aired and what is to be avoided, but if you go out of business, it’s more likely to be because you have no more customers, and the loss of customers will affect who is willing to advertise.
Lou Dobbs’ program was highly rated, he was popular with the audience. When you stop carrying a highly rated, popular product for whatever reason, your customers will shop elsewhere. If the network is saying that Dobbs cost them money because of the lawsuit, do they not also lose money when advertisers see the drop in eyes on the screen? And I also wonder what the status of the new subscription service, Fox Nation, is and whether the cancellation of popular personalities will affect the viewing public’s willingness to subscribe.

Fox numbers have been sliding anyway since they started going in a more liberal direction.

This will make the slide worse. I still like our host Hannity and a few others but there are some folks on there now you couldn’t pay me to watch.

Alternate conservative sites are enjoying increases in their numbers.

Exactly. I watch about 1/3 as much as i was. Dobbs was one of them. Now there’s less I will watch…

[gooddad409]

I liked Lou too.

[Ex-Pat]

I actually liked Lou back when he was on CNN. At least when he wasn’t demonizing immigrants. Don’t what happened to him. He’s a classic argument against the notion of getting wiser with age.

[Ex-Pat]

@WuWei

@Camp

It is salient across a few discussions.

Shows there was a tremendous effort behind the scenes to tilt the election away from Trump.

Trump just took his accusations too far…they were out to get him though.

Come on Camp! Of course “they were out to get him though”! He was the enemy. And everything they planned to stifle - he tried. He got beat like a drum on his own strategy.

They looked at how he won in '16, calculated what he would do, and countered it.

There’s nothing unethical about that.

They ganged up on him? so what?

You don’t get it. Democrats aren’t allowed to fight back. They’re suppose to take it on the chin and not respond.

[Peterbuilt]

@Camp

Media and big tech together.

They just barely pulled it off at that.

I am glad it worked out as it did.

I like the bragging too.

Why does this remind me of the MyPillow guy wanting a permanent Twitter ban?

[Peterbuilt]

@Ex-Pat

I actually liked Lou back when he was on CNN. At least when he wasn’t demonizing immigrants. Don’t what happened to him. He’s a classic argument against the notion of getting wiser with age.

I thought he was out there with a cranky old man attitude.

[GrandWazoo]

I also liked him about that time. I thought that he was pretty level-headed. So I was shocked when he went all sideways for the con man. I really thought that he was smarter then that. But then I look at the Trump supporters in my family. They are level headed people. And when I say con man, it doesn’t seem to register. It seems that the only thing that matters is that there is a R after his name and the other stuff be damned.

[Peterbuilt]

Well said. The R closed the deal regardless of it being DJT