Exactly why are there homeless Americans in NY when they ostensibly have an infinite amount money to house illegal immigrants?

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Wait in the 1990s there were no checks for persons with disabilities?
There was zero housing for people who are disabled?

Even the menaqtlly disabled are dumb enough to belive that crack pipe political rhetoric.

Disable persons are entitled to monthly checks, and housing benefits and medical benfits and food stamps. (I know because I have actually moved mental ill homeless people into my house for months at a time, fed them, laundry, etc.)
taken them by the hand and walked them through the system.

I’ll tell you what

  • I will keep doing what I am doing
  • you keep telling the politicized LIE that the programs I am discussing don’t exist.
    We’ll see which way helps more homeless people.
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Back to the back-wards. Nothing worse then avoiding the obvious reality, that the existing system is a complete failure.

You are trying to reinvent the wheel–as if the best system never already existed.

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I am telling you I actually use the preent system to help people.
You are telling the LIE that the system does not exist.

Where are you getting your information from?
Who told you the SSI/Disability system, public housing, section 8 and medicaid stopped existing or did not exist in the 1990s? Stop believing them.

Get off your ass and help someone.

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You are very presumptive. I worked in it for 4 decades,

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And you never heard of SSI?
and you never heard of section 8 or public housing?

what country did you work in?

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Sorry, had to cut the college loans of rich white kids instead.

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I never said a word about SSI. You don’t seem to understand why there was an actual State System of Hospitals. Counties are good for Emergency Rooms but releasing them on the street from County facilities and group homes or small facilities doesn’t work.

You need real mental hospitals where they can live away from communities. Keeps them away from drug dealers too.

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and those fake woke schools run by pinheads, stuffing their pockets.

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Why would I trust a hospital or hospital worker who conveniently forgets that the mentally disabled are entitled to monthly checks and housing benefits from the day they are discharged?

(this thread is about homlessness, remember?)

Why would I want to force thousands (millions?) of currently housed persons into hospitals when the hospitals cannot “fix” what’s wrong with them?

The notion that homelessness in America is caused by hospitals closing and/or forcing mental patients into the streets without housing and checks is a LIE a big fat fereaking LIE. Should we put the liars and charge and give them $150,000 per year per patient?

That does not end homlessness and no one is made better off by that except the check recipients.

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I’m not guessing. The “lie” is what politicians were saying as they destroyed the State hospital system.

I am not against County mental Health but even the County systems were long dependent on the State Hospital system. Many thousands used to be residents in the State Hospitals. They were traumatized and forced to leave what was paradise for many of them, then became enmeshed in bureaucracy and stuck with basic paper pushers, who were punching tickets and juggling bed space working under the thumb of a profit seeking business. The revolving door.

I see the state of the homeless. It’s abuse to the patients and abuse to regular citizens in regular neighborhoods.

Isn’t it clear yet, the existing homeless situation is NOT being fixed. Proof is right out in the open.

Many of them are seriously mentally ill and dangerous. Everyday it gets worse.

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The topic isn’t about what caused them to be homeless. It is about why are there still homeless people at all in progressive NYC, let alone a growing problem. Try to stay on topic.

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It is just not that hard,
for an ethically operated hospital to get patients into the system whihc includes housig and monthly checks prior to discharge. Let us not advocate opening/expanding those that are not operated ethically.

If “keeping them in hsopitals keeps them away fromdrug dealers” were a valid argument then so would “firing all the doctors at those hospitals.” It is not the presence of doctors and pricey hosptial equipment that keeps the house arrest or whtever it is you are advocating a drug-free atmosphere.

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Sorry, but you don’t understand the problem. There are many who don’t understand the problem.

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1.) Do the severely mentally ill qualify for:
Monthlt SSI (disability) payments? Yes or No

2.) Do the severely mentally ill qualify for:
Section 8, public housing and other housing benefits? Yes or No

  1. Do the severely mentally ill qualify for:
    Medicaid and other existine mediscal aid program? Yes or No

Those are “yes or no” questions.

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Exacerbated, but yours works too.

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Yes. “Housing is a right”

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Dumb questions.

Long terms State Hospital Patients are not billed. SSI is a drop in the bucket.

Politicians don’t want to spend what is necessary. They’d rather do other things with the money.

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ThingsyYou and I both know:

  • the SMI are only a small percent of overall homeless
  • the SMI are already eligible for free housing & monthly checks & medical benefits
  • most of them already use it
  • forcing people to switch from free housing and free doctors to free housing with doctors walking around inside will add (a lot) to the expense but NOT cause a significant change in homelessness.
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Wrong.

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1.) Do the severely mentally ill qualify for:
Monthlt SSI (disability) payments? Yes or No

2.) Do the severely mentally ill qualify for:
Section 8, public housing and other housing benefits? Yes or No

3.) Do the severely mentally ill qualify for:
Medicaid and other existine mediscal aid program? Yes or No

Those are “yes or no” questions.