I saw what you did MW…
It’s a damn good thing Trump didn’t fire the whole freaking Travel Office staff. People here would be losing their ■■■■■
Because you know,
And, as a whole, Democratic Presidents have made relatively few terminations that would be out of the ordinary.
Even though it was out of the ordinary to do so.
It’s really not
This will leave the door open to those who are enemies of America and enemies of the President to surround him and have direct access and the ability to sabotage him.
And then, some might say, that BOTH sides can play that game, so that makes it fair.
But the idea is that the country and the government have been dragged lower because we only think of tit for tat.
The government should be able to hire the best people for the jobs and politics should be kept out of their hiring practices as much as possible and non-partisanship in employee job performance should be scrupulously monitored and enforced.
Nobody is saying they shouldnt be able to remove people…its the context around it…you know the typical reason we argue about trump.
Of course. It’s not like we need people who know what they’re doing to work for the government.
Oh Lord, what a bunch of crap. Just because you are a govt employee does not mean you should NEVER be fired or there isn’t someone who can do the job better.
Hyperbole is awesome, isn’t it!
I think every new employee should swear allegience to a new President every time. That way we know they can be trusted.
Nice rebuttal.
Snagglepuss: RTchoke:Oh Lord, what a bunch of crap. Just because you are a govt employee does not mean you should NEVER be fired or there isn’t someone who can do the job better.
Hyperbole is awesome, isn’t it!
Nice rebuttal.
It was a worthy reply to its target post.
Worthy is not the word I would use.
Worthy is not the word I would use.
Of course you wouldn’t…
Democratic presidents firing folks = crickets.
Republican president fires someone = throw down poll threads.
Just.Like.Clockwork.
Prove it.
Nope.
I also don’t agree with tenure for teachers and professors.
Too damn hard to get rid of the bad one’s.
Do you know why tenure was instituted?
Democratic presidents firing folks = crickets.
Republican president fires someone = throw down poll threads.
Just.Like.Clockwork.
Well, I for one believe the tendency of the current administration to exercise petty revenge against employees who over the smallest slights warrants tenure protections as much, if not more than ever allowed before. We need people in govt to be able to offer real opinions and advice without fearing the
know-nothings at the top of the administration will discharge them just because “The Boss” disagrees.
My belief is, having people who know what they’re doing as the backbone of government operations
over-rides the comfort those at the top gain from having toadies and yes-men all though the ranks.
Dynamic leaders understand this and encourage retaining experienced employees, even though
some of them may occasionally disagree with their political views.
conan:If they’re using there position to promote their political views…shut em down.
Sorry if that bothers you but I want my goverment to remain neutral at all times. No acceptation.
And did you have problem when Obama purged? How about Clinton when he purged the FBI?
People in goverment must realizing there jobs aren’t guaranteed. And that they answer to politicians that has to answer to the people.
Apparently you seem to forgot that somewhere
I have opposed certain terminations by the Democratic side.
But it is a certain subset of the Republican side that has this belief that a certain cabal of civil servants is conspiring to obstruct their policies, which I don’t find to be the case at all.
One or two individuals does not a cabal make.
Most of the problems Trump had with the civil service were of his own making and that of the Senate. Slowness to nominate political appointees and the slowness of the Senate to confirm them.
If Trump had gotten his politic appointments in place early, little of what he complains about would have happened.
But when political appointees are missing, guess what, career civil service fill those slots on an ad interim basis.
I would also suggest.
I never had a problem with Reagan, G.H.W. Bush or G.W. Bush, apart from the singular United States Attorneys affair.
99.9999% of career United States federal employees are NOT out to get Trump. If he can locate, identify and through proper process locate that 0.0001% that might actually be causing a problem, I won’t object.
I do object to blanket attacks on the civil service and the hoisting of the innocent with the guilty. If you can identify somebody that is truly abusing their position in an attempt to thwart the President, then fine, seek their removal through the proper channels.
But leave the vast majority of good people alone.
Baloney.
Safiel: conan:If they’re using there position to promote their political views…shut em down.
Sorry if that bothers you but I want my goverment to remain neutral at all times. No acceptation.
And did you have problem when Obama purged? How about Clinton when he purged the FBI?
People in goverment must realizing there jobs aren’t guaranteed. And that they answer to politicians that has to answer to the people.
Apparently you seem to forgot that somewhere
I have opposed certain terminations by the Democratic side.
But it is a certain subset of the Republican side that has this belief that a certain cabal of civil servants is conspiring to obstruct their policies, which I don’t find to be the case at all.
One or two individuals does not a cabal make.
Most of the problems Trump had with the civil service were of his own making and that of the Senate. Slowness to nominate political appointees and the slowness of the Senate to confirm them.
If Trump had gotten his politic appointments in place early, little of what he complains about would have happened.
But when political appointees are missing, guess what, career civil service fill those slots on an ad interim basis.
I would also suggest.
I never had a problem with Reagan, G.H.W. Bush or G.W. Bush, apart from the singular United States Attorneys affair.
99.9999% of career United States federal employees are NOT out to get Trump. If he can locate, identify and through proper process locate that 0.0001% that might actually be causing a problem, I won’t object.
I do object to blanket attacks on the civil service and the hoisting of the innocent with the guilty. If you can identify somebody that is truly abusing their position in an attempt to thwart the President, then fine, seek their removal through the proper channels.
But leave the vast majority of good people alone.
Baloney.
Speaking of well thought out rebuttals…Right RTChoke?
The op is logical is respected…who doesnt see conspiracy and doesnt play victim with every topic.
Then you tell me what I want goverment to do other then go away?