DOJ creates special unit to target ‘domestic terrorism’

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@e7alr

US citizens are not supposed to be subject to the unreasonable searches, without probable cause, unless they are involved in a crime. Intelligence operations are predicated on identifying and neutralizing a threat before it becomes a crime. Political disagreement isn’t a crime, except in authoritarian dictatorships.

I agree with all of these statements.

@e7alr

This sounds a lot like when federal law enforcement and intelligence services targeted the participants in the Civil Rights movement because the people in power disagreed with the perfectly legal political objectives of said movement.

It does? Why?

I read the OP, it didn’t sound anything like that to me.

@e7alr

Intelligence oversight by the House and Senate Intelligence committees, including quarterly reports and updates to all intelligence activities and committee investigations into reported violations is supposed to keep this in check. But we need this because abuse has been a constant problem.

What kind of abuse are you referring to?

I’m having a hard time imagining any 4th Amendment abuses that will somehow be prevented by quartly reports to Congress.

@e7alr

It is too much of a temptation for an administration to target anyone who disagrees with their policy objectives. The temptation is to make what they perceive as an enemy of their policy into an enemy of the state. It is an especially dangerous threat in a free society.

Agreed. How does this “task force” target anyone who disagrees with the administration’s policy objectives?

@e7alr

One of my duty positions was as the Oversight NCO for a strategic intelligence brigade. I have discovered and reported violations that targeted US citizens with illegal intelligence collection. I know what this is and what it leads to, where political disagreement goes from being a protected right, to a national security crime against the party/state in power.

No doubt you do, if what you’ve said before is accurate.

[PurpnGold]

@Call_me_Ishmael

Incredible! That Kool aid must be delicious.

Those are facts. But feel free to counter them with your own evidence

[e7alr]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

List them…

Go right ahead. I already have.

I’ll choose one…

Lack of diverse exports - put all of their eggs in one basket. An unstable one.

We don’t have that problem.

Venezuela did not fall due to socialism… it mostly fell due to oil, corruption and US influence.

Venezuela fell when the socialists tried and failed to institute a command economy, with redistribution of wealth, through strict price controls and government seizure of private enterprises. The bottom fell out before oil prices fell, and then it really cratered after they did. But Chavez, and now Maduro, made sure that they, and their cronies were taken care. Because as always, some are more equal than others on the animal farm.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

So start a thread on it. Why does it need to dragged into every thread?

Also, look at what factors objectively? It is rank speculation; doom porn.

Not every thread, those in which you© advocate socialism, socialist policies and tendencies, trends in that direction, etc.

You© need to be reminded on basically a daily basis that you© have no idea what you’re demanding with these childish tantrums.

[gooddad409]

@Eagle-Keeper

@Guilds

@DougBH

For one, mail in ballots are the most open to undue influence or fraud.

Evidence?

Oregon, CA and Utah are doing fine with mail in ballots.

There’s no way verify the validity of a mail in ballot.

I doubt Oregon or California are shooting straight at all with mail in ballots.

Cheating would please them right down to the ground imo.

[e7alr]

Organizations in contact, or infiltrated by a foreign intelligence service are legitimate targets for national security operations, Those with no foreign intelligence connection, engaged in purely domestic political discourse are not legitimate targets. But I wouldn’t expect the offspring of the SDS to understand that.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

So start a thread on it. Why does it need to dragged into every thread?

Also, look at what factors objectively? It is rank speculation; doom porn.

Not every thread, those in which you© advocate socialism, socialist policies and tendencies, trends in that direction, etc.

You© need to be reminded on basically a daily basis that you© have no idea what you’re demanding with these childish tantrums.

Got it. F.B.I. investigations into domestic terrorism = libs want Venezuala. Makes perfect sense.

You© guys are absurd with this stuff.

[PurpnGold]

@e7alr

Venezuela fell when the socialists tried and failed to institute a command economy, with redistribution of wealth, through strict price controls and government seizure of private enterprises.

It was failing well before that.

@e7alr

But Chavez, and now Maduro, made sure that they, and their cronies were taken care. Because as always, some are more equal than others on the animal farm.

Ah corruption exactly. Is corrupt unique to socialism?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@e7alr

Organizations in contact, or infiltrated by a foreign intelligence service are legitimate targets for national security operations, Those with no foreign intelligence connection, engaged in purely domestic political discourse are not legitimate targets. But I wouldn’t expect the offspring of the SDS to understand that.

Domestic terrorism = “purely political discourse”. You read it here first, folks.

That plot to kidnap Whitmer? Discourse.

Pipe bombs at The Dar al-Farooq Islamic Center? Discourse.

Oklahoma City? Don’t be silly. Discourse

[fallenturtle]

@gooddad409

@Eagle-Keeper

@Guilds

@DougBH

For one, mail in ballots are the most open to undue influence or fraud.

Evidence?

Oregon, CA and Utah are doing fine with mail in ballots.

There’s no way verify the validity of a mail in ballot.

I doubt Oregon or California are shooting straight at all with mail in ballots.

Cheating would please them right down to the ground imo.

Matching signatures?

[e7alr]

Venezuela went from the strongest economy in South America, with a growing middle class before Chavez, the Socialist ■■■■ Storm it is today because of socialism. That is the reality of the situation. And we have had 2 calls in the last month, by leftist intellectuals in this country, calling for Biden to implement price controls to control inflation, just like Chavez tried in Venezuela when his stupidity caused inflation there.

[conan]

Just admit it libs want to make it easier to cheat the

[e7alr]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@e7alr

Organizations in contact, or infiltrated by a foreign intelligence service are legitimate targets for national security operations, Those with no foreign intelligence connection, engaged in purely domestic political discourse are not legitimate targets. But I wouldn’t expect the offspring of the SDS to understand that.

Domestic terrorism = “purely political discourse”. You read it here first, folks.

That plot to kidnap Whitmer? Discourse.

Pipe bombs at The Dar al-Farooq Islamic Center? Discourse.

Oklahoma City? Don’t be silly. Discourse

Exhibit A for trying to use disparate and unrelated incidents to justify a sweeping anti-terrorism program.

[PurpnGold]

@e7alr

Venezuela went from the strongest economy in South America, with a growing middle class before Chavez, the Socialist ■■■■ Storm it is today because of socialism

The economy was failing before Chavez. There are like history books and stuff.

Is corruption unique to socialism?

I’m not saying some of socialist policies didn’t have an impact. I’m simply saying it wasn’t solely because of socialism. There was a lack of export diversification, volatility of oil, corruption and social policies.

None of which we are suffering from in the US.

[e7alr]

@PurpnGold

@e7alr

Venezuela went from the strongest economy in South America, with a growing middle class before Chavez, the Socialist ■■■■ Storm it is today because of socialism

The economy was failing before Chavez. There are like history books and stuff.

Is corruption unique to socialism?

I’m not saying some of socialist policies didn’t have an impact. I’m simply saying it wasn’t solely because of socialism. There was a lack of export diversification, volatility of oil, corruption and social policies.

None of which we are suffering from in the US.

Export diversification isn’t the issue, it is the balance of exports to imports that matters. I know you are not arguing that our extremely unfavorable trade imbalance is a good thing.

Volatility in Oil, cutting our oil production has exposed us to massive cost increases across all sectors and made our trade imbalance even worse.

Corruption-really with that pack of hogs in Congress on both sides.

Social policies and spending are quickly bankrupting the nation. The real ■■■■ storm comes when Social Security is officially insolvent and the mandatory benefit cuts are triggered.

So tell me again…

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@e7alr

Exhibit A for trying to use disparate and unrelated incidents to justify a sweeping anti-terrorism program.

“Sweeping”?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@e7alr

@Supreme_War_Pig

@e7alr

Organizations in contact, or infiltrated by a foreign intelligence service are legitimate targets for national security operations, Those with no foreign intelligence connection, engaged in purely domestic political discourse are not legitimate targets. But I wouldn’t expect the offspring of the SDS to understand that.

Domestic terrorism = “purely political discourse”. You read it here first, folks.

That plot to kidnap Whitmer? Discourse.

Pipe bombs at The Dar al-Farooq Islamic Center? Discourse.

Oklahoma City? Don’t be silly. Discourse

Exhibit A for trying to use disparate and unrelated incidents to justify a sweeping anti-terrorism program.

Of course they are disparate, even separated by years. It doesn’t change the fact that they were instances of domestic terrorism. Two of them actually were thwarted by the FBI.

Also, a special unit in the FBI is hardly a “sweeping program”.

[PurpnGold]

@e7alr

Export diversification isn’t the issue, it is the balance of exports to imports that matters. I know you are not arguing that our extremely unfavorable trade imbalance is a good thing.

Venezuela built their entire economy on 1 commodity. Oil.

We do not have that problem in the US.

@e7alr

Volatility in Oil, cutting our oil production has exposed us to massive cost increases across all sectors and made our trade imbalance even worse.

Our economy is not built on Oil exports. Venezuelas was.

@e7alr

Corruption-really with that pack of hogs in Congress on both sides.

We have Chavez like corruption? Got any examples?

@e7alr

Social policies and spending are quickly bankrupting the nation. The real ■■■■ storm comes when Social Security is officially insolvent and the mandatory benefit cuts are triggered.

You need to prove this.

[tzu]

Paying large bounties to parents who sue school boards, states and nationwide - limited gummint.

The feds opening one domestic terrorism office - sweeping anti-free speech dragnet.

You know how this works.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@tzu

Paying large bounties to parents who sue school boards, states and nationwide - limited gummint.

The feds opening one domestic terrorism office - sweeping anti-free speech dragnet.

You know how this works.

You noticed that too, eh?