Do you think NATO is

Isn’t that kind of facile and solipsistic? Is this a topic that interests you?

Neural Evidence for Growth in Pure Altruism Across the Adult Life Span.

That you cannot imagine a quality in others doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.

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In pols? In geopolitics? In war?

Are you that gullible?

All I did was link a single article about the existence of altruism. Two minutes ago, you clearly thought it was nonexistent. Seems like that might be something worth thinking about all by itself.

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Of course.

And I assure you of two things. 1. It is true that Russia is not a paper tiger when it comes to nuclear weapons and 2. I am not pissed that Putin can’t blackmail everyone.
I don’t know what you are curious about, but that’s ok. Don’t bother.

At @WuWei and others is what you don’t seem to get is Russia sees the US and Europe as synonymous we are both the enemy.
US sanctions severely crippled his economy and friends so whether you think its nothing to do with the US, actions taken by your government have affected him deeply and he sees you as his biggest enemy.
He gets weapons from China, the Ukraine gets weapons from the US so I’ll leave you to do the maths.
And why in God’s name is anyone defending Russia when you fought a war in Vietnam for 10 years opposing communism (and i mean real communism, not the libs are all commies kind)
Why is it all of a sudden no big deal.
And again with the Nato is bleeding us dry, both our economies depend on each other so any investment is mutually beneficial, the Eu is the Us’s biggest trading partner so how is maintaining that alliance not important.
Here is a guy threatening nuclear war and you want to be all like, hum uh this has nothing to do with us, when in fact you are probably the only thing standing in the way of this happening.

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Wow.

Hello?

Communism?

Seriously?

Communists in the Russian Duma are a minority… appropriately colored red in this diagram. Welcome to the new century! :grinning:

Then maybe we should stop taking those actions. They are not in our own best interests. They are not needed to defend the US. So maybe we should stop that ■■■■■

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You do know, dont you that we have long maintained a policy that includes first strike in a nuclear exchange? Russia doesn’t have to fire one nuke and our policy says we can send the first one over.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-04/news/biden-policy-allows-first-use-nuclear-weapons

Don’t know what more I can say it’s an east versus west kinda thing simple as.
We should stand united to defend western values.

Putin is defending traditional western values. Not the EU, not NATO, and not the US.

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-putin-values-idUSS8N2Z80G1

Maybe you should but Putin will still hate you so why bother.

Hate? Why would I care? I dont look for some “daddy” to love me when I look for leaders. YMMV.

PS… guaranteed that American Progressive Liberals hate me much more than some Ruski does.

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The headline literally says Putin attacks the west and says we are satanic, and that’s how the Russians view us.

Yep. Maybe we should stop doing the ■■■■ that progressive liberalism has brought to our country.

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Are you on a stream of consciousness narrative rant? You claimed that we need need to defend our traditional western values . I showed that it is Putin defending those values… not us. You then say . "Yeah but… "

That is allowing for political disagreement which is the bedrock of our democracy.
That is the thing Russia hates most.

Really? They hate the MOST?

You should try to disagree with Zelensky. :slightly_smiling_face:

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No you are, Russia is an existential threat to the world and you want to claim they represent our values…
Yeah so much so they threatened to blow it all up.

Again… a completely unsubstantiated gaggle of “Putin is the boogyman” statements.

Not worth more of my time.

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