- PTO, RDO, TAD, off site duties…any of a numerous amount of valid reasons for not having access to government email.
- The above.
100%
To be 100% clear, my issue isn’t that there exists the need to know what your employees are doing. I think it is necessary, especially as a people leader, to get regular updates regarding how your teams are achieving their goals.
My issues with this email is this…
Answering to an email about my weekly work to a team that is looking for any reason to fire someone… a team that doesn’t understand my job, tasks, goals etc. That is unnerving.
What happens if I had a slow week last week and only had 3 bullets? However the prior week I had 20? What if I’m in a repetitive job and I have the same bullet but execute it hundreds of times? For example “I answered 100 customer inquiries” or “150 veteran hotline Calls”? That is a lot of work potentially but only one bullet.
Does my boss have a say to verify the work? What do people leaders list… since they primarily don’t execute on things they oversee people. Are meetings considered a valid bullet point?
I could go on forever… the point is that this email never should have come from the tippy top directly to the people. Managers should have asked these questions and reported back with necessary context.
Therefore I believe the goal is to scare people and reduce moral to the point that people want to leave do to unnecessary stress and anxiety.
From Yahoo News:
“To be clear, the bar is very low here. An email with some bullet points that make any sense at all is acceptable! Should take less than 5 mins to write,” Musk wrote on X.
I see it as a confirmation there is a warm body occupying the position.
PurpnGold:
100%
To be 100% clear, my issue isn’t that there exists the need to know what your employees are doing. I think it is necessary, especially as a people leader, to get regular updates regarding how your teams are achieving their goals.
My issues with this email is this…
Answering to an email about my weekly work to a team that is looking for any reason to fire someone… a team that doesn’t understand my job, tasks, goals etc. That is unnerving.
What happens if I had a slow week last week and only had 3 bullets? However the prior week I had 20? What if I’m in a repetitive job and I have the same bullet but execute it hundreds of times? For example “I answered 100 customer inquiries” or “150 veteran hotline Calls”? That is a lot of work potentially but only one bullet.
Does my boss have a say to verify the work? What do people leaders list… since they primarily don’t execute on things they oversee people. Are meetings considered a valid bullet point?
I could go on forever… the point is that this email never should have come from the tippy top directly to the people. Managers should have asked these questions and reported back with necessary context.
Therefore I believe the goal is to scare people and reduce moral to the point that people want to leave do to unnecessary stress and anxiety.
From Yahoo News:
“To be clear, the bar is very low here. An email with some bullet points that make any sense at all is acceptable! Should take less than 5 mins to write,” Musk wrote on X.
I see it as a confirmation there is a warm body occupying the position.
Then why wasn’t this put in the email from OPM to millions of workers? You expect them to go to X to get official guidance?
You expect them to go to X to get official guidance?
I don’t have any social media account, and yet I found it.
WuWei:
Tguns:
The monday deadline is not workable,
Why?
Tguns:
the idea of a lack of response is a “resignation” aint gonna cut it.
Why?
- PTO, RDO, TAD, off site duties…any of a numerous amount of valid reasons for not having access to government email.
- The above.
Ah, agreed for those cases.
I think listing those reasons would also suffice in this case.
“Monday - Leave
Tuesday - Leave
Wednesday - Leave
Thursday - Back in the office. I did …
Friday - I did …”
I think this is an easy way of seeing who the ones are who truly don’t give a ■■■■■ It’s similar to the tests for bots (click on the pics that contain cars).
It’s a start.
PurpnGold:
You expect them to go to X to get official guidance?
I don’t have any social media account, and yet I found it.
Do you expect federal workers to take guidance from something other than their official email?
Do you expect federal workers to take guidance from something other than their official email?
If I were in that position and wanted to keep my job, I would simply respond to the e-mail.
Musk’s comments weren’t meant as guidance to the employees. They were public comments attempting to ease concerns.
I think listing those reasons would also suffice in this case.
“Monday - Leave
Tuesday - Leave
Wednesday - Leave
Thursday - Back in the office. I did …
Friday - I did …”I think this is an easy way of seeing who the ones are who truly don’t give a ■■■■■ It’s similar to the tests for bots (click on the pics that contain cars).
And if it isn’t 5 bullets worth?
The official email doesn’t answer those questions… and it should to calm very valid fears.
If I were in that position and wanted to keep my job, I would simply respond to the e-mail.
Sure. Assuming you see it in time.
Musk’s comments weren’t meant as guidance to the employees. They were public comments attempting to ease concerns.
Then your Elon quote is irrelevant to federal workers. Until they give that guidance officially.
And if it isn’t 5 bullets worth?
The official email doesn’t answer those questions… and it should to calm very valid fears.
I strongly believe this is much to do about nothing. Fill out the questions to the best of your ability, and you will likely be ok. Ignore the email at your own peril. IMHO
Monday - Friday is 5 bullets. Just list whatever you did for work or why you did not have the ability to work on those days and you are good. This would take us on this forum 2 minutes.
Then your Elon quote is irrelevant to federal workers. Until they give that guidance officially.
Do you seriously believe I’m attempting to reach the federal workers with my comments? I am simply participating in the forum discussion of this topic.
PurpnGold:
And if it isn’t 5 bullets worth?
The official email doesn’t answer those questions… and it should to calm very valid fears.
I strongly believe this is much to do about nothing. Fill out the questions to the best of your ability, and you will likely be ok. Ignore the email at your own peril. IMHO
Likely is carrying a lot of weight here.
My Aunt got this email and there is wide spread panic in her office. And that’s just from the people who have access to email over the weekend. Not everyone does so they will show up to work… under the possible threat of layoff.. if they don’t produce 5 bullets.
There is a much better way this could have been done. Why they consistently do it the least empathetic way is beyond me (well actually no it isn’t… the goal is panic and confusion)
Monday - Friday is 5 bullets. Just list whatever you did for work or why you did not have the ability to work on those days and you are good. This would take us on this forum 2 minutes.
The official email should offer this guidance. Why didn’t it? Especially when you have Elon saying that failure is considered resignation.
Especially when you have Elon saying that failure is considered resignation.
Ignoring it is considered resignation.
PurpnGold:
Then your Elon quote is irrelevant to federal workers. Until they give that guidance officially.
Do you seriously believe I’m attempting to reach the federal workers with my comments? I am simply participating in the forum discussion of this topic.
No you responded to ME. ![]()
In your response to MY POST you attempted to use an unofficial X post to insinuate that federal workers should have nothing to worry about.
I simply stated that the Elon post was not official guidance, so the workers are right to worry and expect clarification officially
Likely is carrying a lot of weight here.
My Aunt got this email and there is wide spread panic in her office. And that’s just from the people who have access to email over the weekend. Not everyone does so they will show up to work… under the possible threat of layoff… if they don’t produce 5 bullets.
There is a much better way this could have been done. Why they consistently do it the least empathetic way is beyond me (well actually no it isn’t… the goal is panic and confusion)
I see two choices.
Respond to the email to the best of your ability and you will likely be ok.
Ignore the email and you could possibly be fired.
If it were me, I would choose option 1 and keep my fingers crossed.
PurpnGold:
Especially when you have Elon saying that failure is considered resignation.
Ignoring it is considered resignation.
I did my job
I did my job
I did my job
I did my job
I did my job
Would that be enough of a response to keep someone from getting laid off? I didn’t ignore it. So according to you, I should be safe!
Right?