Democrats hold on Blacks weakens as Black owned businesses surge to new heights!

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Yes. You have no proof it was intentional. I don’t think one has to be 60 years old to realize the 400 percent figure was absurd, and so much so it had to be an error. Why on earth would anyone make such a statement knowing it would be instantly challenged?

In any event, I see you an others find great pleasure in dwelling on the absurd figure rather than rejoice in the fact that Black entrepreneurship is on the rise and support for President Trump among African Americans is growing, which ought to make all freedom loving Americans happy.

JWK

"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen [a working person’s earned wage] and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, [those who have invaded America’s borders], to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes, is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation."____ Savings and Loan Association v.Topeka,(1875).

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Looks like an inarticulate person monkeyed up these numbers.

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I said I was quite happy about it several posts back and that it didn’t bother me that his popularity is rising among blacks. And I take no pleasure in seeing hack journalism. It is not me that is dwelling on the 400 percent figure, I explained myself once and you kept trying to convince me I was wrong. That’s kind of the idea of this place, I’m not complaining mind you, but that is pretty much the way it went.

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Where is your evidence proving it was not an unintentional error?

JWK

Socialism is intentionally designed to benefit politicians who distribute “free government cheese”, while it punishes those who have produced the cheese.

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Hey! A zombie lie! Back from the dead.

The company conducting this survey was contacted and explicitly stated this was not data, just an infographic that has been taken and altered to say something they never intended. It was not a formal survey, it didn’t follow statistical methods, it was just some nice PR for a company that services entrepreneurs. They also have one for Latino businesses.

Dozens of Conservative websites have taken the altered data (yes, that graphic was altered) and posted threads and articles lauding Trump for this great success. Which, of course, is nonsense.

According to the SBA around 80 percent of all startups are by Whites, non-whites comprise 20 percent and of that group Latinos double those of Blacks.

So stating that 45% of ALL startups are Blacks is false on its face. Unless they went from 2% to 8% perhaps, but not 11.25% to 45% in ONE YEAR.

I am happy for anyone starting a business, black or white, but don’t piss on my leg and tell me its raining.

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Just in case you need some more proof, Politifact looked it over and rated it False.

From the article linked:

It was not clear from the released results how the companies came up with the 400 percent jump. The percentage of African-American respondents who owned businesses was not published, nor was that figure from last year.

The survey sample was not random, the response was voluntary, and the margin of error was not made public.

This graphic said it relied on the same survey data, and it highlighted the African-American business owners in the pool. The methodology the companies provided did not break down respondents by race, only saying that minorities accounted for 47 percent of aspiring entrepreneurs who responded.

PolitiFact contacted Guidant about the claim in the graphic on Aug. 21. Two days later, a new version of the graphic was posted, this time without any mention of a 400 percent increase.

“We have found that the 400% statistic is being misrepresented in its context and therefore we have decided to pull that statistic from our info graph,” public relations consultant for Guidant Stacia Kirby said in an email. “Our mission is to help people get started and funded in owning their own business.”

When it comes to black-owned business numbers, we couldn’t find another source that supports this increase from 2017 to 2018. The Annual Business Survey data about Business Owner Characteristics for 2017 is not yet available, and most recent census data related to minority-owned businesses is from 2016.

Robert Fairlie, an economics professor at the University of California-Santa Cruz, studies entrepreneurship and authored a book about its relationship with race in the United States.

Fairlie said there was no indication that African-American businesses had seen significant growth in the past year.

“That would be great if there was a 400 percent increase given that African-American rates are so low, but everything that I have seen from Census and BLS data does not show that kind of growth,” Fairlie said.

Its simply a viral lie that is making the rounds, and enough Trump supporters are biting to keep it alive. Desperate times I suppose.

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If it unintentional, then the author would have redacted the claim and issued a correction.

I didn’t see any proof of a correction. In fact, I see this story being repeated by other hack sites.

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You sure could not tell it with the support against Roy Moore and the support for Andrew Gillum will be as much as it was for Obama!

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And yet, my local brainless AM RADIO talker had Fake-Sheriff David Clarke on as a guest and those 2 know-nothings went on and on about the 400% so sadly, this FAKE NEWS is already embedded in the goobers’ brains.

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I have said for a half-century that blacks consistently return to their abusers. Now, IMO, as a consequence of Trump’s statement, “What have you got to lose?”, blacks have at last turned their backs, or, at least, turned aside from, the Democrat party – their abusers. I am so happy to see black-owned businesses, something America has needed for decades. We have been bereft of this treasured asset since 1787. To clarify this remark, let me say, there is nothing so vital to cultural identity as its commerce. Blacks have cried for so long that they are second-class citizens; this has been true, because they have had no real, societal, inclusive, “commerce” of their own. This rise of black-owned businesses is a permanent change in the perception of the cultural value of blacks in America. I am so happy, I cried; the change has come at last. Now, discrimination based on race has no value; it will hit the bigot directly in his wallet. :slight_smile: God Bless America. :slight_smile:

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:roll_eyes:

Not amazing at all that you and others dwell upon an obvious misrepresentation and ignore that Black entrepreneurship is on the rise and support for President Trump among African Americans is growing, which ought to make all freedom loving Americans happy.

JWK

Socialism is intentionally designed to benefit politicians who confiscate and then redistribute “free government cheese”, while it punishes those who have produced the cheese.

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Robert Fairlie, an economics professor at the University of California-Santa Cruz, studies entrepreneurship and authored a book about its relationship with race in the United States.

Fairlie said there was no indication that African-American businesses had seen significant growth in the past year.

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Clearly part of the Deep State, loves CNN and Venezuela.

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John:

YOU pushed the 400% narrative.

It was the focus of YOUR OP. You do know we can go back to your OP and see this? And that as of today, you haven’t corrected it?

And you did it AFTER it had become well-known that the figure was false and Guidant had updated their infographic.

All this shows is that YOU were so enamored of the number that YOU didn’t do your proper research to cross-check it.

You don’t get to pretend you were “just lauding the increase in black entrepreneurship”.

I swear…it’s like some of you believe we can’t go back and check out what you’ve written.

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many char

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I quoted an article, but what I “pushed” was “. . . support for President Trump among African Americans has jumped to 36 percent. Just imagine if that support is reflected in this coming election and Republicans hold the House with a sizable margin and gain a few seats in the Senate ___ America’s economic engine will be able to ignite another “roaring twenties.”

Now, do you agree Black owned businesses are on the rise and support for Trump among African Americans is on the rise?

JWK

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lol, Trumps support among African Americans is not at 36%.

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It depends on what poll you look at. The bottom line is, even CNN agrees support for Trump among African Americans is on the rise.

JWK

Socialism is intentionally designed to benefit politicians who confiscate and then redistribute “free government cheese”, while it punishes those who have produced the cheese.

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3/4 of your OP was the post touting a false figure that had already been exposed as false, reported as such on these boards, and deleted from the original source materialbefore you ever posted it. This is why you should always use the original source materialminstead of some blog about source material.

You want to tout black support for Trump on the rise…tout it…but don’t pretend you didn’t push fake numbers in an effort to tout it.

As for Rasmussen, it notoriously ticks high for Republican/conservative/Trump which is why you need to look at many polls, not just one. So far, his support is all over the map in polls…I’ve seen 12%, 21%, and the 36% Rasmussen purported.

I will grant that all of these results are higher than the 8% of the black vote he got in the 2016 election.