So we would need to get 3.2 trillion a year in new revenue to the fed gov. And that’s if the projections are correct, which they never are. That’s a lot of taxes.
A public option was originally part of ACA. You can still have medicare for all woth a private sector
Yes, it just won’t be very good health care. Most govt health care has long waits for beds and surgery. Like in Canada.
That’s not even true.
No, that’s not 3.2 trillion in new revenue. That’s the total annual cost of health care expenditures. The current annual health care expenditures is $3.5T. If we can afford the latter, we can certainly afford the former (you know, because it’s less. Math FTW).
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Netherlands, Switzerland, and Germany all have similar or better wait times than the US.
No it’s not. Because the only thing that matters when assessing the cost of health care is the aggregate cost of all health care expenditures on a per capita basis. We spend about $10,700 per capita on health care expenditures. Completely eliminating liability insurance would bring that down a whopping $21. Liability insurance isn’t even a drop in the bucket.
What are Canadian’s views on their health care system?
While this has also been proven false, I’ll entertain it and simply highlight that you ignore the fact that someone without insurance has the longest wait of all… NEVER.
well to begin with the medicaid needs to be sweeten so that states that have previously rejected expansion can be enticed to expand. Not sure how to do it but it needs to get done.
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Where do you get that information. I don’t think Germany even monitors wait times for surgery, let alone publish them for the public to see,
Do the numbers for the United States include wait times for people without insurance?
Since we would want to be apples to apples, of course. Right?
You just show up at the ER…
And they diagnose that you need a hip replacement, or a malignant tumor. What is the wait time for that?
Tens of thousands of people die prematurely a year as a result of no insurance coverage. But Canadians have to wait longer for elective surgeries than those with insurance in the US, so those Canucks have it worse.
You don’t get cancer treatment in the ER.
I don’t know. Does Obama care cover it?
This is how desperate the right is. They’re asking dems for ideas on healthcare. I suspect this thread is going to a committee somewhere tasked with writing Trump’s healthcare plan. 
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It’s honestly kind of sad that you don’t know the difference between an emergency and medical care.
ERs stablize, diagnose, and discharge. They do not provide medical treatment beyond stabilization.
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