Critical Race Theory Question

[WuWei]

@Munimula1

@Call_me_Ishmael

Or… they might have had to wait another 50 years to be freed from slavery like my grandfather did. The Ottomans OWNED their slaves, buying and selling them and even cutting off their balls to make them better servants.

And that didn’t happen here?

Yes. It most definitely did.

[Munimula1]

@JayJay

@Munimula1

@Call_me_Ishmael

Or… they might have had to wait another 50 years to be freed from slavery like my grandfather did. The Ottomans OWNED their slaves, buying and selling them and even cutting off their balls to make them better servants.

And that didn’t happen here?

Over here they got three squares, lifetime care, and their immortal souls saved, dontcha see?

And didn’t have to bother with learning to read and write- that’s a plus.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@JayJay

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Munimula1

Really? Examine your conscience, while keeping in mind that slaves were dragged here, imprisoned, denied education, and even after emancipation, 2 world wars, and the Civil Rights movement, were not given equal status.

And in Africa they could have been content to be impaled on a post by a competing tribe.

Or… they might have had to wait another 50 years to be freed from slavery like my grandfather did. The Ottomans OWNED their slaves, buying and selling them and even cutting off their balls to make them better servants.

So…Bull ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■ history is full of atrocities.we all have to shed our victim status and become men and women.

I always love it when we compare the United States to the worst cultures out there and use that to say “Hey we are pretty good”.

Like “yeah we treat gays like ■■■■ , but they should cheer up…in Saudi Arabia they’d be killed”.

Nothing like measuring yourself by the lowest standards possible.

You - on the other hand- measure the United States according to its worst histories and not its best. So a little balance is a good thing. Doncha think?

[Munimula1]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@JayJay

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Munimula1

Really? Examine your conscience, while keeping in mind that slaves were dragged here, imprisoned, denied education, and even after emancipation, 2 world wars, and the Civil Rights movement, were not given equal status.

And in Africa they could have been content to be impaled on a post by a competing tribe.

Or… they might have had to wait another 50 years to be freed from slavery like my grandfather did. The Ottomans OWNED their slaves, buying and selling them and even cutting off their balls to make them better servants.

So…Bull ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■ history is full of atrocities.we all have to shed our victim status and become men and women.

I always love it when we compare the United States to the worst cultures out there and use that to say “Hey we are pretty good”.

Like “yeah we treat gays like ■■■■ , but they should cheer up…in Saudi Arabia they’d be killed”.

Nothing like measuring yourself by the lowest standards possible.

You - on the other hand- measure the United States according to its worst histories and not its best. So a little balance is a good thing. Doncha think?

IDK if you mean me, but[quote=“Call_me_Ishmael, post:466, topic:239502, full:true”]

@JayJay

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Munimula1

Really? Examine your conscience, while keeping in mind that slaves were dragged here, imprisoned, denied education, and even after emancipation, 2 world wars, and the Civil Rights movement, were not given equal status.

And in Africa they could have been content to be impaled on a post by a competing tribe.

Or… they might have had to wait another 50 years to be freed from slavery like my grandfather did. The Ottomans OWNED their slaves, buying and selling them and even cutting off their balls to make them better servants.

So…Bull ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■ history is full of atrocities.we all have to shed our victim status and become men and women.

I always love it when we compare the United States to the worst cultures out there and use that to say “Hey we are pretty good”.

Like “yeah we treat gays like ■■■■ , but they should cheer up…in Saudi Arabia they’d be killed”.

Nothing like measuring yourself by the lowest standards possible.

You - on the other hand- measure the United States according to its worst histories and not its best. So a little balance is a good thing. Doncha think?
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That’s certainly not true. But should accurate US History be taught, or should we avoid talking about the issues that made the US what is is today, good and bad?

[thinkingman]

@Munimula1

Are schools allowed to mention slavery?

well of course why not?

@Munimula1

The Civil War? Segregation in the armed forces? Bathroom facilities, lunch counters, buses and water fountains?

i hope that gets taught well yes. people need to know what Democrats are actually like

@Munimula1

Lynchings? Emmitt Till? Separate but equal? Housing discrimination?

Definitely. and “racial jungle” too right? Separate buses?

ooh maybe too far?

[PurpnGold]

@Call_me_Ishmael

Many words. A yes or no would have sufficed.

Yes it did

[Munimula1]

@thinkingman

@Munimula1

Are schools allowed to mention slavery?

well of course why not?

@Munimula1

The Civil War? Segregation in the armed forces? Bathroom facilities, lunch counters, buses and water fountains?

i hope that gets taught well yes. people need to know what Democrats are actually like

@Munimula1

Lynchings? Emmitt Till? Separate but equal? Housing discrimination?

Definitely

But we shouldn’t make connections be[quote=“thinkingman, post:468, topic:239502, full:true”]

@Munimula1

Are schools allowed to mention slavery?

well of course why not?

@Munimula1

The Civil War? Segregation in the armed forces? Bathroom facilities, lunch counters, buses and water fountains?

i hope that gets taught well yes. people need to know what Democrats are actually like

@Munimula1

Lynchings? Emmitt Till? Separate but equal? Housing discrimination?

Definitely
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ween [quote=“thinkingman, post:468, topic:239502, full:true”]

@Munimula1

Are schools allowed to mention slavery?

well of course why not?

@Munimula1

The Civil War? Segregation in the armed forces? Bathroom facilities, lunch counters, buses and water fountains?

i hope that gets taught well yes. people need to know what Democrats are actually like

@Munimula1

Lynchings? Emmitt Till? Separate but equal? Housing discrimination?

Definitely
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But we shouldn’t make any connections between those things and the inequalities that still exist today? Not to lay blame, but to explain and learn from mistakes?

You do agree that those were all mistakes, right?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@PurpnGold

@Call_me_Ishmael

Many words. A yes or no would have sufficed.

Yes it did

You know that you could have sued them, then…since you supposedly have proof.

[PurpnGold]

@thinkingman

@Munimula1

The Civil War? Segregation in the armed forces? Bathroom facilities, lunch counters, buses and water fountains?

i hope that gets taught well yes. people need to know what Democrats are actually like

White conservatives

[PurpnGold]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@PurpnGold

Yes it did

You know that you could have sued them, then…since you supposedly have proof.

Not in writing

[PurpnGold]

@thinkingman

@Munimula1

Are schools allowed to mention slavery?

well of course why not?

Was slavery an example of system racism?

[thinkingman]

@PurpnGold

@thinkingman

@Munimula1

Are schools allowed to mention slavery?

well of course why not?

Was slavery an example of system racism?

sure was

[thinkingman]

@PurpnGold

@thinkingman

@Munimula1

The Civil War? Segregation in the armed forces? Bathroom facilities, lunch counters, buses and water fountains?

i hope that gets taught well yes. people need to know what Democrats are actually like

White conservatives

sure

Democrats wanted to conserve the blacks in chains way of life

for a long time

[Munimula1]

@thinkingman

@PurpnGold

@thinkingman

@Munimula1

Are schools allowed to mention slavery?

well of course why not?

Was slavery an example of system racism?

sure was

So it’s ok to teach that systemic racism existed?

[thinkingman]

@Munimula1

But we shouldn’t make any connections between those things and the inequalities that still exist today?

what inequalities are you talking about?

[PurpnGold]

@thinkingman

sure was

And under some laws just passed in REPUBLICAN states… saying the term “systemic racism” would get a teacher in trouble.

Is that productive?

[thinkingman]

@Munimula1

@thinkingman

@PurpnGold

@thinkingman

@Munimula1

Are schools allowed to mention slavery?

well of course why not?

Was slavery an example of system racism?

sure was

So it’s ok to teach that systemic racism existed?

well of course. blacks werent allowed to vote for a long time

[thinkingman]

@PurpnGold

@thinkingman

sure was

And under some laws just passed in REPUBLICAN states… saying the term “systemic racism” would get a teacher in trouble.

Is that productive?

not in the context of teaching history

[Munimula1]

Oh, in employment, housing, education.

It’s kind of embedded in the ‘system’ due to our past.

[JayJay]

@thinkingman

@PurpnGold

@thinkingman

sure was

And under some laws just passed in REPUBLICAN states… saying the term “systemic racism” would get a teacher in trouble.

Is that productive?

not in the context of teaching history

The laws as they are written are very vague as to what would get the teacher in trouble and could cost the school district money.

Therefore the odds of anything even remotely “controversial” being said would be nil.

Which is just what today’s right wants…