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Textbook mental illness. 
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Interesting concept and not something I have ever heard before. Definitely worthy of more discussion.
I have certainly witnessed numerous anecdotes where some sort of a halfway system would reduce drug relapse and associated crimes. So yeah we can find common ground.
But let’s start not with “spport my prec-conceived idieology” and instead start with looking at facts.
According to the report:
About half of persons admitted to state prison in
2014 were released by the end of 2015.Among persons admitted in 2014 and released
by 2015, over half (59%) were arrested at least
once within 2 years.
Half the persons serving under 2 years.
No wonder we have such a high rate of repeat offenders.
Idea #1) After 3-4 or 5 arrests, lock 'em up and forget about them. That would greatly reduce recidivism, and whatever “free giveaways for ex-cons” we come up with could be a smaller and beter-targeted plan.
Idea #2) The first time around prison time should be greater than 2 years. (Deterrence.)
If you want to set up some sort of Oprah Style giveaway to ex-cons let’s make it evidence based, affordable and targeted toward those who are likely to succeed.
No, more like “I made a mistake, was warehoused like freight, wasn’t taught any useful skills, then dumped back out into a society that stigmatizes me, and where I can’t get a decent job”.
As of 2022, about 8% of the total state and federal prison population in the United States is incarcerated in private prisons.
The link between private prison managers and people being released to commit more crimes even after a half dozen arrests is looking pretty tenuous.
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You can’t stop recidivism with policy.
Addiction is an excuse, not a reason.
Theft can break a family.
Now do Venezuela, Honduras and Ha…
Never mind.
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3 Strikes isn’t the law in every state.
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In the states that have 3 strikes, it only applies to felonies.
Might want to drill down further and separate out the states that don’t have 3 strikes and people repeatedly convicted of non-felonies. Let me know what you find out.
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Cultures of criminality too.
They had that path.
I like it.
Well you can if you keep people in jail.
Figure above show that >80% of prisoners were already arrested more than 3 times. If we (hypothetically) just started keeping people after their 3rd or 4th arrest there wouldn’t be as much crime and Walmart jobs would start looking pretty good to folks released after their 3rd arrest.
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It wasn’t a “mistake.”
Could be. I say only culture can change it. Change the culture, change the behavior.
You going yo leave them in there for life?
Well that’s the “hypothetical” part.
It turns out ~66% of the persons in the study had never been convicted of either a violent offense or an offense involving a weapon.
Breaking into someone’s house or car or whatever and getting arrested three separate times for such crimes should come with a long long sentence, but I’m not sure about throwing away the key.
Ok, but if you give them a long sentence, what they doing?
I’ve seen it, they learn to be better criminals. They practice.
You have to let them out eventually.
This is honestly how I see it:
Addict breaks into 12 different cars or houses etc. gets caught once–> Whatever we are doing is okay (Though we should have better post-prison half-ways.)
Gets out does another 12 cars or houses. 2nd time in prison.–> Same as above
Gets out does another 12 cars or houses. 3rd time in prison–> Same as above but with one important change. This time when he gets out he is told “If we catch you again its 20 years minimum.”
Does it again anyway. Now his 4th time–> 20 years.
9 in 10 state prisons, all federal prisons, and 9 in 10 private prisons provide educational opportunities to inmates.
About half of the inmates take advantage.
Note: just noticed that is 20 years old, so if anybody has later statistics….
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