COVID: The lesser flu

[tnt]

@WuWei

Did you care about the 50,000 that died in 2014-15? Or did you get woke in January '17?

Did they die in a month and a half?

[Ben_Natuf]

you seem to be missing the point that 50X the number of americans have already been infected. are you claiming it would have been 200X?

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Did you care about the 50,000 that died in 2014-15? Or did you get woke in January '17?

Did they die in a month and a half?

Did they die?

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

What’s different about it?

Nothing. They should just call it the flu.

It’s a different virus.

What’s different about it?

[tnt]

@Ben_Natuf

Nobody gave a ■■■■ about the 60K who died from the flu a couple years ago either.

That said, what in my post would lead you to believe I, or anyone else, doesn’t give a ■■■■ about people dying?

So 60K dying over 12 months with ZERO restrictions, is comparable to 60K dying in a month and a half with people not going out of their houses (with exceptions of course)?

And you think these diseases are comparable?

[Ben_Natuf]

i hope so to.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@Ben_Natuf

Nobody gave a ■■■■ about the 60K who died from the flu a couple years ago either.

That said, what in my post would lead you to believe I, or anyone else, doesn’t give a ■■■■ about people dying?

So 60K dying over 12 months with ZERO restrictions, is comparable to 60K dying in a month and a half with people not going out of their houses (with exceptions of course)?

And you think these diseases are comparable?

Of course they are comparable. The checklist is long.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Did they die?

So 60K dying over 12 months with ZERO restrictions, is comparable to 60K dying in a month and a half with people not going out of their houses (with exceptions of course)?

And you think these diseases are comparable?

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And BTW, we as a nation care enough about the flu to have a huge amount of research spent on vaccines every year. And insurance companies pay 100% of those vaccines because they know how dangerous the flu is.

[Ben_Natuf]

flu season does not last 12 months.

and 60K have not died from COVID.

the current estimate is under 60K, which would be about the same as a bad flu year. and this is without wide spread use of any effective therapeutics. How many would die from flu under those conditions?

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Did they die?

So 60K dying over 12 months with ZERO restrictions, is comparable to 60K dying in a month and a half with people not going out of their houses (with exceptions of course)?

And you think these diseases are comparable?

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And BTW, we as a nation care enough about the flu to have a huge amount of research spent on vaccines every year. And insurance companies pay 100% of those vaccines because they know how dangerous the flu is.

Did they die?

Flu vaccines are half assed on a good year.

[tnt]

@Ben_Natuf

flu season does not last 12 months.

and 60K have not died from COVID.

the current estimate is under 60K, which would be about the same as a bad flu year. and this is without wide spread use of any effective therapeutics. How many would die from flu under those conditions?

My bad - I Must have been thing about the current estimates.

So…where are we? 40 currently? I forget. After shutting down the economy. In a month and a half.

IF you want to think that is comparable to 60 over the course of the year with NO restrictions, then be my guest. There is no sense discussing this odd twist in conservatism. This is now some kind of membership test - you have to think a disease that went from 15 cases to 750,000 cases in about 2 months is really not that big of a deal. Just the flu really.

It’s crazy.

[JayJay]

@Camp

Would you like me to give you a pet name?

Call me anything you like.

Your relentless optimism may not be grounded in reality, but it’s actually fun.

[Jamerican]

sigh…
Never thought we would be facing 2 pandemics at the same damn time, Covid-19 and asininity-17

[LucyLou]

@WuWei

That’s bull ■■■■■

Excellent analysis. Panicky.

[WuWei]

@LucyLou

@WuWei

That’s bull ■■■■■

Excellent analysis. Panicky.

Fodder goes in, bull ■■■■ comes out. Not much to analyze.

But thanks.

[Ben_Natuf]

@tnt

IF you want to think that is comparable to 60 over the course of the year with NO restrictions, then be my guest. There is no sense discussing this odd twist in conservatism. This is now some kind of membership test - you have to think a disease that went from 15 cases to 750,000 cases in about 2 months is really not that big of a deal. Just the flu really.

flu season does not last 12 months. those 60K are typically in about a 5-6 month period. current estimate is through august— a 6 month period. not the point though.

how many do you suppose would die of the flu on a bad year without therapeutics? certainly more than 60K. likely much more. the flu also mutates faster making its vaccine only about 50% effective. the slow mutation of this virus will make a potential vaccine more effective than flu vaccine. wide spread use of any therapeutic developed will lessen the rate of death. this is likely the worst episode of COVID we will ever see. its bad, very bad. but in the end this will be the “lesser” flu.

[JayJay]

@JayJay

@Ben_Natuf

and current estimates put the total at about the same as a bad year with flu, and that’s without wide spread use of therapeutics and no vaccine.

But WITH draconian social distancing policies in place that have lessened the number of infected far below those infected by the flu every year.

In less time than the flu takes, with higher peak weeks.

No study has shown 60 million Americans have been infected with COVID.

Or even hinted at it.

[lessright]

Editing posts to make it appear you said something you didn’t isn’t against the rules for everyone.

[Ben_Natuf]

there have been 4 separate studies showing a median infection rate 50X higher than those reported.

let me guess, you suddenly don’t believe in sampling?

[JayJay]

@Ben_Natuf

there have been 4 separate studies showing a median infection rate 50X higher than those reported.

let me guess, you suddenly don’t believe in sampling?

None of those were representative samples.

Even the Stanford study showed an infection rate of 4% on average.

4% of the population is 13.2 million, not 60 million.

And Santa Clara County was a hotspot.