The trial will be on a very narrow question in regards to the BOD printers and the Judge pointed out that Karen Lake will prove at trial that the variouis election officials (a) acted with malfeasant intent, (b) there were identifiable losses of votes due to the malfunction, and (c) that the vote from be would have changed the outcome.
For (a) she has to prove the who, what, where, when and how the multiple individuals (since there were a fairly large number of sites) acted with malfeasance. For (b) she has to identify lost votes - which there were none since the votes were taken to a central facility and counted. Because of (b), then (c) results in no change to the election.
It observably the way people experience knowing. Centuries ago people knew the earth was flat. People in this forum know Trump colluded with Russia. People know many things that aren’t true.
I did say knowing is 100% faith (faith without any doubt) that the evidence one is observing proves your postulate. Some people still know Trump was illegitimately inaugurated as president.based on what they regard as evidence.
Of course faith is based on evidence. Others may not be able to see the evidence someone else is seeing, like my sister’s pink elephants. That doesn’t mean my sister herself was no knowing pink elephants were coming over the fence.⁹
Pretending that he was illegitimate is an opinion. He was still the 45th president. That’s known. You are confusing faith, opinions and reality. It’s weird. But again it’s understandable why you hold the positions you do. This discussion reinforces it.
That’s exactly what we have been discussing here - conditions of what constitutes knowledge. It’s not all faith based and nothing in epistemology says otherwise.
No need to redo anything. If ballots are invalid they are removed from the ballot total. Hobbs defeated Lake by roughly 17,000 votes. If there are more than 17,00 invalid Hobbs ballots for whatever reason (I know a stretch), and the Lake ballots are solid; Lake won.
But good luck proving it. All Kari Lake is managing to do is prove there is corruption in the voting system in Arizona. But again, nobody will do ■■■■ about it.
It does not take any great prophetic talent to see the outcome of this adjudication. Just a student of the history of these disputes…and some common sense.
There are two counts left. Everything else was thrown out.
On one…the BOD printer issue… the judge set a super high bar…one where if Lake had the ability to cross that bar, we would know by now.
The other one…the chain of custody issue…is an issue where the remedy, if proved, will be penalties to those who broke the rules and procedures put in place to prevent them from happening again. As always happens when these election disputes come up. Again…if Lake had proof more than 17,000 ballots were handled inappropriately, we would know it by now.
So if you are sitting at home thinking Lake has hope to win the election…you are going to be bitterly disappointed.
I won’t give her a zero percent chance…but it’s pretty close to zero percent.
Oh and if you read the judge’s ruling, you would know these two counts were allowed to proceed not because the filings by Lake’s attorneys showed they had proof to substantiate their claims.
They were allowed to proceed because they were actual legitimate claims under the applicable laws. All the other ones that were dismissed were not legit claims.
