Brrr, it's freezing . . . Must be global warming

  • When winter is warmer than usual, the NYTimes writes
    that it is evidence of global warming. (Link 1 below)

  • When winter is colder than usual, the NYTimes writes
    that it is evidence of global warming. (Link 2 below)

Some people will look at this fact,
never question it, and instead attack anyone who DOES
question it as “rejecting science.”

Democracy comes at a price, and that price is----- we have to allow such people to vote, and raise children, and speak their minds, etc.. But it doesn’t mean we have to take them seriously.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/climate/winter-february-heat-wave.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/07/climate/cold-weather-climate-change.html

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Warmer climate/less ice = abundance of food and land.

Colder climate/more ice = starvation.

Only a college educated idiot looking to pay off his degree could twist that fact into anything else. The rest are just generic idiots trying to feel smart parroting someone else.

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Why’s is either article wrong?

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Oh I think global warming is a bad thing.
I also think that when we pre-select a bunch of scientists who support the mainstream hypothesis (the IPCC) they concluded that sea levels will rise about 13-16" in about 100 years.
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Then hackneyed and uneducated propagandists pretend it will be far worse.

We can choose to believe the science.
We don’t have to believe the hackneyed, uneducated propagandists.

13-16 inches . . . in 100 years (and that is if we choose to dismiss the scientific dissenters)



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What don’t you like about the idea of Earth warming up to levels of the past?

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Well, I confess,
when Rachel Carson (of DDT fame) wrote “The Sea Around Us” in 1951, she noted that in recent decades the Earth has been warming at an accelerated pace. She thoughtis was a good thing for the planet and wouldbea good thing for humanity.
→ There is always the chance that Rachel Carson was right.

But,
after what humanity has done to the codish, the sturgeon, the shad etc. (and temporarily to the bald eagle, the dolphin and the bison) I believe the null hyothesis should be: “When man majorlyimpacts the environment it is probably a negative thing and should.”

I just wish that we should rely on actual science, (not scary propaganda) in approaching it.

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I look at the patterns and ignore the clatter. My humble 4 year degree in mathematics ruins the sensationalism for me.

The Holocene Climatic Optimum (9,000–5,000 years ago, sans the anomaly of 8,000 year ago), the Roman Warm Period (250 BC–AD 400), and the Medieval Warm Period (950–1250 AD), were among the most prosperous times since the beginning of the Holocene. The greatest empires in history flourished during those times, and died after.

In between all of those periods are famine, plague, economic collapse, and total war.

It’s supposedly warmer now than those previous warm periods. There is also less total war, less economic collapse, less famine, less plague. Far less.

Metropolitan cities are further north than they ever have been since the beginning of the Holocene. Crops are harvested further north on an industrial scale than they ever have been since the beginning of the Holocene.

Fossil records repeatedly show a flourishing planet during warm periods, and extinction events during cold periods (the latest/largest one in the last 3-5 million years being the Younger Dryas Period).

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That is 100% (well I can;t verify the part about the fossil records, so I’ll just trust you on that).

Rachels Carson’s idea involved things like

  • 90% of Canada’s population live in the southern most 10% of Canada.
  • Agricultureal production drops sharply north fo 50 deg N latitude
  • so does biodiversity both among plants and animals.

She felt that being a water planet comes with limitations, (fragility of land based flora and fauna) and that when the earth warms just a few more degrees, it would open a LOT of land
and create and Eden-like impact. A very good thing for both man and nature.

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And it’s not to say that if we entered a Greenhouse Earth (the opposite of the current Ice Age we are still currently in), there wouldn’t be any ice or snow.

This was Panama City Beach, Florida last winter (that’s snow, not white sand):

If the Earth continues to warm, people someday living in a big city on Baffin Island will be able to swim in Nettilling Lake during the summer, yet still have to salt their roads in the winter.

It’s not going to become one big desert, or one big water world.

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I have lived in what we call "the mIdAtlantic states"most of my life.

I have to assume that what is true between the red lines (above) would hold true if we extended them mot of the way tothe Pacific (IOW a LOT of agricultural land)

As a farm kid and a grown-up gardener
I can assure you that both farmers and gardeners here
try to “sneak in” ther spring planting a little early and often try to “harvest a little late.”

On both ends of the seasonal spectrum. "It is a little too cold here, and “if things warmedup a bit, that would be ideal.”

Point for your side. It would be a win for that large part of the USA.

Basically, dark green below is "a little too cold right now and would benefit if things warmed up a bit.

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They’ve been saying that for decades and it hasn’t happened.

Some like Gore thought Manhattan would be under water by 2000.

Guess they are getting smarter in making their predictions 100 years out now so people will not live long enough to see the predictions fail.

Well that’s true too.

But my point was science (even hand-selected science) says
“Oceans will rise 13 inches in ~100 years).”

Media will run completely wrong, lie-filled scary scenarios like the one I posted not at all related to science. (It is not science, it is not news, it is not journalism. It is propaganda.

Libs will claim -we- are science deniers because we reject their lie-filled propaganda.

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Strange that they’re going with a claim of 13" instead of the more mathematically correct number of 14.57". :thinking:

:thinking:

That explains why he lost the 2000 election. The basement ballot mills were flooded. :wink:

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The left should like Global warming now as it prevents ICE.

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:rofl: :rofl:

Although, back in 1975, it was predictions of a new ice age.

Maybe they were closer with that one. Now it’s an ICE age.

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I remember that too. :+1:

The dems try to downplay that one.