BREAKING on CNBC: Tariffs still refusing to be inflationary as China's PPI drops 3.6%

lower demand, lower prices.

CNBC
China’s producer prices fall 3.6% in June, biggest drop in nearly two years as deflation deepens

China’s producer prices plunged 3.6% in June from a year earlier, marking its largest decline in nearly two years, as a deepening price war rippled through the economy that’s already grappling with tepid consumer demand.

The consumer price index edged 0.1% higher in June from a year ago, . . .

Last week, Chinese policymakers, in a top economic policy meeting chaired by President Xi Jinping, criticized the excessive price competition by Chinese companies to entice consumers and clear excess inventory, as the U.S. tariff onslaught has threatened the viability of selling to the world’s largest consumer market.

Beijing pledged to tighten regulations on such aggressive price-cutting . . .

China’s producer prices fall 3.6% in June, biggest drop in nearly two years as deflation deepens

Looks like falling exports and rising domestic inventories may be pushing Chine into a deflation cycle.

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Last month we only imported 20 billion dollars worth of goods from China…last time it was this low was in March 2020. That was due to Covid.

You have to go back to 2005 to have those numbers on regular bases.

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It’s a pretty impressive chart.
As you pointed out
US imports from China now match the COVID lows.

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…and watch now…this great news will be on the front page of every leftist media site! :wink: :tumbler_glass:

“Biggest drop in nearly two years.”

It’s the change of direction that earned my attention and all while the “tariff factor” entered into the equation. Now I understand that “swooooooooooosh” sound I heard a tad ago. :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

Right of course. It wasn’t that the article or its content or anything else

Just the feeling

Let me know which of your YouTube sources covered the deflation that happened in 2023.

…and daaaaaaaaaaamn…I just heard it again. :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

There is no need for substantive discussion. Just onomatopoeia.

It doesn’t seem to be that.

“China’s export growth has shown some resilience in recent months, even as the erratic U.S. tariff policies disrupted global trade. Chinese overall exports rose 4.8% in May and 8.1% in April, thanks to a surge in shipments to the Southeast Asian nations that largely offset the shrinking U.S.-bound goods.”

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Two years ago was when they shut down the entire economy.

There is a chart and nothinb but a chart at this link.
Take a peek and tell us your hionest thoughts

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1KiS6

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They shut down their entire economy in 2023?

I took a peek. Thank you.

It looks like there were two massive post pandemic drops

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Good.

Note that the chart shows dollar volume imports to the US.

The article discusses under-lying producer prices on China.
(Two similar but different phenomena.)

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Import volume, some of which is seasonal dropped 50% from the local high a few months ago.

Clearly only part of that is seasonal.
It should not be contentious to say that a 50% drop in sales to their biggest customer led to a 3.6% drop in producer prices. :smile:

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It’s not contentious. I think that’s a good correlative premise

What’s the reason for the 2023 number

Best guess:
China formally ended its “zero-COVID” policy on January 8, 2023

The month they reopened (after nearly two years) they had a pile of labor and a pile of unsold unfinished inventory. If that was the dominant factor then supply and demand would suggest lower prices.

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November 2023 but that’s ok your point is a good one.

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