BREAKING: Joe Biden has been elected the 46th President of the United States of America

[UnoURright]

Some were even talking about impeachment BEFORE he even won the nomination.

Could Trump be impeached shortly after he takes office?

[JayJay]

@zantax

@JayJay

Mark Levin relies on people having only a cursory understanding of the Constitution, so he focuses on the fact that the state legislatures have the power to decide how electors are chosen and ignores the constraints Congress can place on that power.

Like the people pushing the national vote compact do?

Nice try, but not in the slightest.

The people pushing the compact acknowledge that some compacts require approval of Congress before they can go into effect. They have marshaled legal arguments why they think their Compact wouldn’t be subject to such Congressional approval so it can be debated.

Surely, anyone with more than a passing familiarity with the history of the push for the compact would know this…

[Konssurvative1]

It is for these exact reasons I voted for Biden. He does not get to make his own constitutional rules.

[zantax]

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

Mark Levin relies on people having only a cursory understanding of the Constitution, so he focuses on the fact that the state legislatures have the power to decide how electors are chosen and ignores the constraints Congress can place on that power.

Like the people pushing the national vote compact do?

Nice try, but not in the slightest.

The people pushing the compact acknowledge that some compacts require approval of Congress before they can go into effect. They have marshaled legal arguments why they think their Compact wouldn’t be subject to such Congressional approval so it can be debated.

Surely, anyone with more than a passing familiarity with the history of the push for the compact would know this…

The whole thing is based on the premise that state legislators can choose the electors using any criteria they please even if it is contrary to how the people in their state voted. Seems the same to me. My position is that it is unconstitutional to disenfranchise voters in that manner.

[NebraskaFootball]

@tzu

As far as legislation or funding is concerned, at this point Biden’s election doesn’t really matter. McConnell will see to that.

But, just getting Jared, Miller, Ivanka, Meadows, Pompeo, DeVos, Chad Wolf et al out of the White House - no small thing.

Bill Barr out of the DOJ! Mike Pompeo out of State. These are tremendous things!

[Publius]

@tzu

As far as legislation or funding is concerned, at this point Biden’s election doesn’t really matter. McConnell will see to that.

But, just getting Jared, Miller, Ivanka, Meadows, Pompeo, DeVos, Chad Wolf et al out of the White House - no small thing.

I dunno, I’d like to think that the across the aisle connections that Biden made over many years in the Senate could count for something…

[Blackwolf]

@SpacemanSpiff

Nothing is official yet. I wish we wouldn’t do this until it is.

Understandable.

[tzu]

Maybe some austerity and minor drug reform.

[NebraskaFootball]

@tzu

Maybe some austerity and minor drug reform.

Infrastructure potentially. Gives both sides something to brag about for their next election.

[WCD9973]

I dont think its a GIVEN that Republicans control the senate.
Looks like there were will be 2 run offs in GA.

A state where millions of people just learned that their vote REALLY mattered.

[Publius]

@Blackwolf

@Munimula1

In the end, he will just slink away. This lawsuits will amount to nothing, he won’t get any encouragement from Republicans in congress to keep it going, and he will slink.

I disagree. He has no understanding of the idea of going quietly. His rants on social media will continue to the end of his days.

As I happily eat my crow this morning the overriding feeling is not to gloat (much), just an overwhelming sense of relief. The thought of Trump ousted in January and reduced to a tired, old, easily ignored crank on Twitter is bonkers.

Until Twitter bans him.

[tzu]

I almost wrote that. My concern is that Biden signs on to some form of Public-Private scheme that comes with tax write-offs, union busting/“right to work” and unaccountable shoveling of funds to mega large contractors.

[JayJay]

@zantax

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

Mark Levin relies on people having only a cursory understanding of the Constitution, so he focuses on the fact that the state legislatures have the power to decide how electors are chosen and ignores the constraints Congress can place on that power.

Like the people pushing the national vote compact do?

Nice try, but not in the slightest.

The people pushing the compact acknowledge that some compacts require approval of Congress before they can go into effect. They have marshaled legal arguments why they think their Compact wouldn’t be subject to such Congressional approval so it can be debated.

Surely, anyone with more than a passing familiarity with the history of the push for the compact would know this…

The whole thing is based on the premise that state legislators can choose the electors using any criteria they please even if it is contrary to how the people in their state voted. Seems the same to me. My position is that it is unconstitutional to disenfranchise voters in that manner.

Again…not in the slightest.

The first constraint is, as I pointed out, if a legislature changes how electors are selected, it can only take effect the NEXT Presidential election. So the compact pushers would only be the same as Mark Lewin IF and only if they are trying to say right now their compact is going into effect. This is not legal.

And then there are the other constraints. There are laws that de-incentivize selecting electors in any way other than the popular vote and there is the matter over whether this compact will require Congressional approval.

The argument against Lewin’s stance is NOT that the legislature can’t decide how to choose electors.

It’s that they can’t do so retrospectively, and a Constitutional scholar such as Lewin obviously knows that.

[Publius]

@tzu

I almost wrote that. My concern is that Biden signs on to some form of Public-Private scheme that comes with tax write-offs, union busting/“right to work” and unaccountable shoveling of funds to mega large contractors.

Isn’t it nice to be talking about actual policy issues, though?

[zantax]

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

Mark Levin relies on people having only a cursory understanding of the Constitution, so he focuses on the fact that the state legislatures have the power to decide how electors are chosen and ignores the constraints Congress can place on that power.

Like the people pushing the national vote compact do?

Nice try, but not in the slightest.

The people pushing the compact acknowledge that some compacts require approval of Congress before they can go into effect. They have marshaled legal arguments why they think their Compact wouldn’t be subject to such Congressional approval so it can be debated.

Surely, anyone with more than a passing familiarity with the history of the push for the compact would know this…

The whole thing is based on the premise that state legislators can choose the electors using any criteria they please even if it is contrary to how the people in their state voted. Seems the same to me. My position is that it is unconstitutional to disenfranchise voters in that manner.

Again…not in the slightest.

The first constraint is, as I pointed out, if a legislature changes how electors are selected, it can only take effect the NEXT Presidential election. So the compact pushers would only be the same as Mark Lewin IF and only if they are trying to say right now their compact is going into effect. This is not legal.

And then there are the other constraints. There are laws that de-incentivize selecting electors in any way other than the popular vote and there is the matter over whether this compact will require Congressional approval.

The argument against Lewin’s stance is NOT that the legislature can’t decide how to choose electors.

It’s that they can’t do so retrospectively, and a Constitutional scholar such as Lewin obviously knows that.

Where can I find the you can only change it for the next election thing in the constitution?

[STODR]

Yep all of the sudden the courts will allow a new President nullify the old President’s executive order.

[Publius]

@zantax

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

Mark Levin relies on people having only a cursory understanding of the Constitution, so he focuses on the fact that the state legislatures have the power to decide how electors are chosen and ignores the constraints Congress can place on that power.

Like the people pushing the national vote compact do?

Nice try, but not in the slightest.

The people pushing the compact acknowledge that some compacts require approval of Congress before they can go into effect. They have marshaled legal arguments why they think their Compact wouldn’t be subject to such Congressional approval so it can be debated.

Surely, anyone with more than a passing familiarity with the history of the push for the compact would know this…

The whole thing is based on the premise that state legislators can choose the electors using any criteria they please even if it is contrary to how the people in their state voted. Seems the same to me. My position is that it is unconstitutional to disenfranchise voters in that manner.

Again…not in the slightest.

The first constraint is, as I pointed out, if a legislature changes how electors are selected, it can only take effect the NEXT Presidential election. So the compact pushers would only be the same as Mark Lewin IF and only if they are trying to say right now their compact is going into effect. This is not legal.

And then there are the other constraints. There are laws that de-incentivize selecting electors in any way other than the popular vote and there is the matter over whether this compact will require Congressional approval.

The argument against Lewin’s stance is NOT that the legislature can’t decide how to choose electors.

It’s that they can’t do so retrospectively, and a Constitutional scholar such as Lewin obviously knows that.

Where can I find the you can only change it for the next election thing in the constitution?

Search for “ex post facto”.

[Jezcoe]

@NebraskaFootball

@tzu

As far as legislation or funding is concerned, at this point Biden’s election doesn’t really matter. McConnell will see to that.

But, just getting Jared, Miller, Ivanka, Meadows, Pompeo, DeVos, Chad Wolf et al out of the White House - no small thing.

Bill Barr out of the DOJ! Mike Pompeo out of State. These are tremendous things!

Rick Grenell goes back under his rock

[zantax]

@Publius

@zantax

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

@zantax

@JayJay

Mark Levin relies on people having only a cursory understanding of the Constitution, so he focuses on the fact that the state legislatures have the power to decide how electors are chosen and ignores the constraints Congress can place on that power.

Like the people pushing the national vote compact do?

Nice try, but not in the slightest.

The people pushing the compact acknowledge that some compacts require approval of Congress before they can go into effect. They have marshaled legal arguments why they think their Compact wouldn’t be subject to such Congressional approval so it can be debated.

Surely, anyone with more than a passing familiarity with the history of the push for the compact would know this…

The whole thing is based on the premise that state legislators can choose the electors using any criteria they please even if it is contrary to how the people in their state voted. Seems the same to me. My position is that it is unconstitutional to disenfranchise voters in that manner.

Again…not in the slightest.

The first constraint is, as I pointed out, if a legislature changes how electors are selected, it can only take effect the NEXT Presidential election. So the compact pushers would only be the same as Mark Lewin IF and only if they are trying to say right now their compact is going into effect. This is not legal.

And then there are the other constraints. There are laws that de-incentivize selecting electors in any way other than the popular vote and there is the matter over whether this compact will require Congressional approval.

The argument against Lewin’s stance is NOT that the legislature can’t decide how to choose electors.

It’s that they can’t do so retrospectively, and a Constitutional scholar such as Lewin obviously knows that.

Where can I find the you can only change it for the next election thing in the constitution?

Search for “ex post facto”.

I don’t need to search for it, it’s not applicable, the legislature hasn’t selected the electors yet.

[NebraskaFootball]

@tzu

I almost wrote that. My concern is that Biden signs on to some form of Public-Private scheme that comes with tax write-offs, union busting/“right to work” and unaccountable shoveling of funds to mega large contractors.

I have very little doubt that in the end it would look quite a bit like what you are describing here. But from a political angle, it is something that can be “accomplished” between the two sides. With tons of credit being claimed by either side about what they brought home to their respective States.