Border at breaking point...It's a Nat'l emergency

And as @Safiel correctly pointed out, the founders very much intended that Congress would be supreme among the three branches.

We are not talking about your personal space on the subway. We are talking about tens of thousands of foreigners flooding across our border each month and the devastating social and economic impact it is having upon American citizens. We are talking about the general welfare of the United States being adversely affected by this invasion. And we are talking about our federal government commanded by our Constitution to protect the United States against “invasions”.

JWK

Illegal immigration is now costing American citizens over $18 billion a year in healthcare costs alone! Far more than the measly $5.7 billion asked for to build a wall! LINK

Safiel ought to read the law. He may then come to the appropriate conclusion.

The President is already authorized by Congress to reassign certain funds during a declared emergency.

see: 10 U.S. Code 2808. and 33 U.S. Code 2293

JWK

There is no surer way to weaken, subdue, demoralize and then conquer a prosperous and freedom loving people than by allowing and encouraging the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, criminal and diseased populations of other countries to invade that country, and make the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such invaders.

I can’t wait till the first shot is taken, and one of these “invaders” is shot while their 8 year old child watches. It will seal the fate for this whole invasion angle.

You provided all those definitions of invasion. You should be flattered that I used one.

So these refugees are armed?

Thats a whole lot of revisionism to cloud the facts.

Its really as simple as if the gop really wanted to do what they campaigned on and said they qere going to do they could have done so using senate procedures but did not do so.

I dont really need to go any more in depth than that. Its as simple and clear cut as that. The GOPs lack of gumption to play the cards the way they qere dealt in the past us exactly why they are getting played today.

Now in two years they get the chance to lose another house and make them absolete for another 2 years is on them.

Far as im concerned, let them try this gambit with the executive. Next time around they wont have Reid to blame for then escalation. And im also quite sure the dems can take advantage of a situation like this far better than the GOP canx theyve already proven that, at the expense of 1 SCOTUS seat who isnt in any way guaranted to do what you think he will given Thomas can beat him like a mule into compliance.

You have a lot to learn.

Ok. Just stop.

I would have loved that duty. Marines always want to make a difference for my country.

Yeah, i laughed when i read that post too.

I’ll bet you can’t.

How come whenever I see a sensational thread title bolstering a Trump assertion, it’s always from a ■■■■■■■■ source?

I guess when you get all your info from dubious sources, you’re bound to be completely separated from reality.

With the internet the way it is, I’m not sure we’ll ever solve this problem. Thankfully, at least 2/3 of the nation still has their collective heads breathing oxygen, while the remaining third—yes, THAT third—continue to wallow in the mudpit of lies and conspiracy.

Hey john, have you been to the border lately?

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Great point. Why isn’t Trump calling for the draft? If it’s really a national emergency, shouldn’t he be drafting soldiers?

Sorry. The little boy already cried wolf too many times.

I’m sure there are Americans who fantasize about our military standing at the border, mowing down illegals like a scene from Walking Dead where Darryl Dixon is mowing down a horde of zombies.

It’s the economy.

And you should observe that our founders used the all encompassing “invasion” and “invasions” as opposed to a limited one such as “armed invasion”.

JWK

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

The devastating social and economic impact of illegal immigration

Let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department’s Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County’s assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.

Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 citizen children apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these citizen child cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to citizen children cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under restricted Medi-Cal benefits. During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for restricted Medi-Cal benefits. Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.

A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.

Education.

Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.


And, more recently see:

Illegal aliens cost California billions

2004

”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”

Also see: Testimony 51 Florida Hospitals in trouble due to illegal aliens expenses:

Jun 10, 2008

”No need to editorialize. Here is a sampling of the sort of facts the politicians and pro-illegal lobby want you to ignore, yet expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is it any wonder scores of hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units!!!”

Then take a look at Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care

Aug 19, 2010

Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.

And how about this: The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

May 6, 2013

”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

And how about the tens of thousands of criminal aliens released into our nation’s population? See: Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014

Mar 2015

”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”


There comes a time when the evidence concerning the general welfare of the United States can no longer be ignored, at least not by those who are deeply concerned about the well being of the United States.

JWK

Illegal immigration is now costing American citizens over $18 billion a year in healthcare costs alone! Far more than the measly $5.7 billion asked for to build a wall! LINK

Would you care to expound on that?