Bloomberg: America Isn't a Food Superpower Any More (in fact we are a net importer.)

:notes:Amber waves of . . . :notes:

America Has Been Importing More Food Than It Exports

Farm trade deficit seen at a record $49 billion in 2025

. . . American imports of farm goods are forecast to climb 6.5% in the year ending Sept. 30 to $219.5 billion, with inbound shipments of avocados, orange juice and coffee accounting for much of the increase, the USDA said. Exports are forecast at $170.5 billion, 2.2% lower than a year earlier.

“Avocado imports from Mexico, the largest commodity in terms of import volume, are expected to increase on strong demand and improved growing conditions,” the USDA said.

Pricey cocoa and sugar are also adding to the import bill. And while some grain exports are expected to rise, traditional American crops have been losing allure overseas for years, with Russia overtaking the US as the world’s top wheat shipper and Brazil surpassing the US as the biggest exporter of corn, cotton and soybeans. . . .

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-27/agriculture-powerhouse-us-has-never-imported-so-much-food

That was rather sudden don’t ya think?

The free market does not generally make sudden shifts of this nature, possible, but not likely.

More likely circa 2010 crisis a bunch of central banks or central governments adopted new policies.

Sarcasm: Of course any government policy that is not CALLED a tariff is a good one, and is not intended to create a hidden tariff. So, it’s best that we don’t respond right?

That’s not good IMO.

I’m seeing lot of imported meat like beef and pork etc. And with China basically owning pork industry here in America.

But also people buying fresh veg and fruit etc might have some impact as well.

We should probably stop subsidizing low-value-added products like corn and soybeans.

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I have not checked recently, but I don’t think we import much meat,
(like 10% of our beef, and 5% of our pork).

The chart shows that SOMETHING has changed rapidly, so I’m not gonna go too far out on a limb with that.

I’m not sure why we subsidize soybeans. I guess because the soybean farmers have a lobby.

Most farmers sell into a monopsony so . . . some sort of gov’t intervention is m/l reasonable, (potential market failure), but it does not have to apply to every crop, and it does not mean every subsidy of every size is appropriate.

Still, the sudden change in the chart shows telltale signs of “probably not the free market.”
@7426k

Definitely not the free market! A sordid mess of subsidies, penalties, abused water rights and a million mis-aligned incentives. The only free markets in agriculture are at your local farmers market and within the confines of the Chicago Board of Trade / the futures market. I think the crop incentives are a far larger concern than the number of buyers. We’d do far better by getting the government out of it.

(especially when that government gets all Andrew Mellon about things and says “I’ve been in the investment business for 35 years, and I can tell you that corrections are healthy,”)

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True, but you are branching out.

Many industries are measured according to the market share of the top 4 firms.

I guarantee you not a single dairy farmer anywhere in America gets to choose from among 4 buyers. Nowhere in America are there 4 competing dairy firms competing to buy a farmer’s milk.

Ergo the prima facie case for market failure exists right there (monopsony) the same as it does for air pollution.

I also wonder how much of this is cause by water right/diversion. I mean water going to some fish and not fresh veggies is part of cause. Just thinking out loud here.

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Let’s accept (for sake of an entertaining discussion) that’s correct. There’s still a marginal price involved here - and Vermont still produces 250M gallons of milk in this so-called uncompetitive market. When the Northeast Dairy Compact disappeared, Vermont didn’t stop producing milk. Somehow the market - even with an alleged monopsony buying (group) - still works. People. If it’s a market failure it’s a pretty damn weak one.

On a related note, which I might not have been clear about in my original post, we are stuck subsidizing low-value items and therefore stuck importing high-value items. I’m guessing that’s the source of the change in Ag trade balance; the calorie output in the US is still as high as it’s ever been (again, speculating there) it’s just that we export a lot of cheap calories and import a lot of expensive ones.

Also I have no idea if you can grow an avocado in SoCal.

Maybe we need to alter the GIGO in our agriculture.

Some say that’s “Garbage In, Garbage Out.” But maybe there’s too much Government In, Government Out.

Well, the article cites
“inbound shipments of avocados, orange juice and coffee accounting for much of the increase . . .”

and

"Pricey cocoa and sugar are also adding to the import bill . . . "

There is a small, but real possibility that the article is correct.

It is written by honest, well-intentioned people who are trained to turn a blind eye to things like currency manipulation and massive money-printing at the fed, trained instead to look at the free-market as a loose cannon (or positively evil.)

Wisconsin produces 14% of America’s dairy and a lot (most??) of it gets turned into government cheese. That tells me the subsidy is too high in Wisconsin.

In Vermont?
The milk probably gets shipped to nearby markets.

PS:
Results of a quick search:

People post/write there opinions in most cases.

Are you going to sit here and tell me that orange juice, avocados and coffee flipped to 49 billion dollar deficit? specially when we always imported coffee?

Seriously you’re going to run with that?

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I think you have misinterpreted my post.
Read it more carefully.

something like 85% of Vermont milk goes to Cabot or the statewide dairy coop. Cabot is obviously national but I have no idea where the Coop milk goes. I presume supermarkets but that’s not my lane.

The best part of the AI overview: The Northeast Dairy Compact rate was something like $14 per 100 weight. We got rid of government supports and the price increased to today’s $22.80.

I have trouble believing the answer to this non-existent problem is more government involvement in the dairy market.

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I don’t think I’ve missed represented anything.

You mention sugar and coca. Do you know sugar consumption in United States is down 15 percent…so it can’t be sugar.

Not everything you read that you agree with is true. :wink:

as a former Vermonter I must add: That damn Wisco cheese ain’t good enough for anything bot Government cheese anyway.

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Ahem

Ahem ahem

How a person goes from that which I write to something I clearly and obviously did ntot write is a wonder to me.

What’s the point of doing that?
Might as well claim I wrote about tinkerbell and designated hitters.

Yes currency manipulation played a part of it.

United states exported more then we imported back in 70’s.

But your graph shows 100 billion dollar swing in food superpower.

And then you went on about avocados, orange juice and coffee.

No…me thinks there are helluva lot of other variables at play here.