Blinken tells Netanyahu to surrender to Hamas

French and Indian War.

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That’s exactly right. Israel won’t “allow” it, just like they didn’t “allow” it prior to Oct. 7. But it happened anyway.

This is weak. Can you provide any reliable sources that say Hamas is “history,” as you put it?

Yeah, I was just clarifying a nit.

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LOL Zelensky is already stating Trump is more hardline on Putin than Biden! So much for that Trumps a puppet talking point.

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I have no doubt that he said it, but your proof is the Media quoting one retired General’s personal opinion.

I made no claims as to the status of Hamas as a fighting force. Sure, they can still kill people, but then anybody can do that. @peek-a-boo is right. Unless they are miraculously rearmed, re-equipped and their leadership restored to the extent that they were at the beginning of this operation, they are effectively done as a military force. Their next iteration will almost certainly be under a new name.

But none that was completely surrounded, cut off from outside support and essentially living underground. The last one like that that I can think off was in the Warsaw ghetto in 1943.

You are all over the place. Again. Like always. See you at the next random thought

Yep!

Hamas in that kind of role won’t threaten Israel and will just ensure Gaza is never rebuilt. And in the end, who will be resupplying Hamas in that Guerrilla warfare. They are surrounded and will eventually run out of food, water and ammunition.

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Round and round.

I’m simply stating my opinion, just as you are.

That’s a high likelihood statement.

Says a lot about who they are too.

After the last hostage is accounted for and the living ones have been released from their hell, I look forward to the pumps being turned on and the rats being either flushed from their lairs or drowned. Which it is matters little to me.

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You’re both basically saying the same thing. “This time is different!” It wouldn’t be “miraculous” if Hamas rearms despite Israel’s efforts to prevent it. We know that because it’s happened before.

The same people who have supplied them in the past, obviously. You do realize that Gaza has been “surrounded” for generations, don’t you?

You asked for links and I provided. (And you promptly ignored. :wink: ) I asked for links and you punted.

We’ll see. Will the Trump administration allow that?

Gaza shares a border with Egypt. Arms were smuggled across that border. Israel has sealed that off. They will most certainly maintain a presence there to prevent future smuggling.

Israel will do what they need to do. They don’t need permission.

You provided links to those who believe as you do. The links are simply spin supporting your arguments.

I could do the same from my side of the argument. But that would be a waste of both our times.

Obviously, no one knows how this will play out. Certainly, neither of us does. All we can do is speculate.