French and Indian War.
That’s exactly right. Israel won’t “allow” it, just like they didn’t “allow” it prior to Oct. 7. But it happened anyway.

I’m not interested in reading your like-minded material. You’ve done a good job articulating your position. Reading a like-minded link doesn’t add any more credibility to your position. It simply demonstrates there are more out there who believe as you do.
This is weak. Can you provide any reliable sources that say Hamas is “history,” as you put it?

That’s exactly right. Israel won’t “allow” it, just like they didn’t “allow” it prior to Oct. 7. But it happened anyway.
Yeah, I was just clarifying a nit.

YOSUP:
FreeAndClear:
YOSUP:
Impenitent:
Biden wants a remake of older (pre Abraham accords) “peace deals” which the Israelis and Saudis do not want.
Biden attempting to “go around” the Prime minister of Israel may give Biden some problems with part of the “democratic” base, and our most important ally in the region…
Blinken can go ■■■■! Real leadership is in charge now.
Yeah the real leadership pushed an agreement which keeps Hanas in power. That’s real leadership. Can’t wait till this deal turns and Biden/Blinken will be at fault.
Man this is going to be a four long years for you with all this winning haha!
Yeah that’s the response i expected. I want President Trump to succeed. You’ll never get it though. Like ever.
LOL Zelensky is already stating Trump is more hardline on Putin than Biden! So much for that Trumps a puppet talking point.

Samm:
Media quoting the Media. Classic!
Media quoting the general. Are you suggesting he didn’t say it?
If you have some information that shows Hamas is “history” and no longer an effective fighting force, I’d like to see it. I can provide link after link that says the opposite.
I have no doubt that he said it, but your proof is the Media quoting one retired General’s personal opinion.
I made no claims as to the status of Hamas as a fighting force. Sure, they can still kill people, but then anybody can do that. @peek-a-boo is right. Unless they are miraculously rearmed, re-equipped and their leadership restored to the extent that they were at the beginning of this operation, they are effectively done as a military force. Their next iteration will almost certainly be under a new name.

peek-a-boo:
Guerilla warfare isn’t remotely the same as deploying an effective fighting force.
You couldn’t be more wrong. Some of history’s most effective fighting forces have been guerilla forces. I’m sure you know that.
But none that was completely surrounded, cut off from outside support and essentially living underground. The last one like that that I can think off was in the Warsaw ghetto in 1943.
You are all over the place. Again. Like always. See you at the next random thought

You couldn’t be more wrong. Some of history’s most effective fighting forces have been guerilla forces. I’m sure you know that.
Yep!
Hamas in that kind of role won’t threaten Israel and will just ensure Gaza is never rebuilt. And in the end, who will be resupplying Hamas in that Guerrilla warfare. They are surrounded and will eventually run out of food, water and ammunition.

That’s exactly right. Israel won’t “allow” it, just like they didn’t “allow” it prior to Oct. 7. But it happened anyway.
Round and round.

This is weak. Can you provide any reliable sources that say Hamas is “history,” as you put it?
I’m simply stating my opinion, just as you are.

and will just ensure Gaza is never rebuilt.
That’s a high likelihood statement.
Says a lot about who they are too.

Oryx:
You couldn’t be more wrong. Some of history’s most effective fighting forces have been guerilla forces. I’m sure you know that.
Yep!
Hamas in that kind of role won’t threaten Israel and will just ensure Gaza is never rebuilt. And in the end, who will be resupplying Hamas in that Guerrilla warfare. They are surrounded and will eventually run out of food, water and ammunition.
After the last hostage is accounted for and the living ones have been released from their hell, I look forward to the pumps being turned on and the rats being either flushed from their lairs or drowned. Which it is matters little to me.

@peek-a-boo is right. Unless they are miraculously rearmed, re-equipped and their leadership restored to the extent that they were at the beginning of this operation, they are effectively done as a military force.
You’re both basically saying the same thing. “This time is different!” It wouldn’t be “miraculous” if Hamas rearms despite Israel’s efforts to prevent it. We know that because it’s happened before.

And in the end, who will be resupplying Hamas in that Guerrilla warfare. They are surrounded and will eventually run out of food, water and ammunition.
The same people who have supplied them in the past, obviously. You do realize that Gaza has been “surrounded” for generations, don’t you?

Oryx:
This is weak. Can you provide any reliable sources that say Hamas is “history,” as you put it?
I’m simply stating my opinion, just as you are.
You asked for links and I provided. (And you promptly ignored. ) I asked for links and you punted.

After the last hostage is accounted for and the living ones have been released from their hell, I look forward to the pumps being turned on and the rats being either flushed from their lairs or drowned. Which it is matters little to me.
We’ll see. Will the Trump administration allow that?

The same people who have supplied them in the past, obviously. You do realize that Gaza has been “surrounded” for generations, don’t you?
Gaza shares a border with Egypt. Arms were smuggled across that border. Israel has sealed that off. They will most certainly maintain a presence there to prevent future smuggling.

Will the Trump administration allow that?
Israel will do what they need to do. They don’t need permission.

You asked for links and I provided. (And you promptly ignored.
) I asked for links and you punted.
You provided links to those who believe as you do. The links are simply spin supporting your arguments.
I could do the same from my side of the argument. But that would be a waste of both our times.
Obviously, no one knows how this will play out. Certainly, neither of us does. All we can do is speculate.