Blinken tells Netanyahu to surrender to Hamas

Not the same?

Certainly many of the exact same fighters.

Why do I doubt your headline?

ISIL and Hamas though are not the same. They are much at odds with each other on agendas and how to carry them out. But you are right, many individuals have fought with the other group. Extremists in Hamas often join ISIL, and less extreme fighters in ISIL often come to Hamas.

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You are right. Defeating Hamas and accepting a Palestinian State are two different things.

No the exact same fighters are dead

And no it’s not the same thing because one is a partisan group and the other is an invading force.

If only that were true … but it’s far from it.

Fair enough

I think the left on this board should shudder in fear at the prospect of agreeing with Bill on this.

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Just out of curiosity, where does one suppose a “Palestinian State” would/should be located?

Well, if you ask a Palestinian … “From the River to the Sea.”

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Definitely.

It sure is, so long as they take our money.

The minute they turn our money down, I’ll agree with you

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Because you can suss out a lie when you see one. :smile:

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No you missed the point. They should ignore Biden but not a Republican President :smirk:

Great question. Guerrilla.

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The Brits did beat the Malayan insurgency.

Granted that was an awfully long time ago.

And the US won the Philippine insurgency. That was an even longer time ago though.

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My lifetime. The “occupying force” makes it tougher.

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The US and ARVN destroyed the Viet Cong. Using lessons learned in Malaya.

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Should the Gov’t be able to tell people how they should live their lives if taking welfare?

That seems to be the main problem. Winning the initial fight is doable and almost everyone succeeds at it. But building a lasting peace afterwards is where counterinsurgencies tend to fall completely apart.

The soviets tried to win Afghanistan. But their strategy was to “kill everything that moves and hope for the best.”