Biden's violent crime plan


You’re seriously stating that you don’t need to know what’s being discussed in order to offer an opinion on it?

Perhaps I can. Perhaps you will like this? Then perhaps you can explain why the left believes that insufficient background checks are the problem?

Don’t blame crime on legal gun owners (

1.House passes bill to expand background checks for gun sales
"The first bill, which passed 227-203, is designed to close loopholes to ensure background checks are extended to private and online sales that often go undetected, including at gun shows. The legislation includes limited exceptions allowing temporary transfers to prevent imminent harm, for use at a target range and for gifts from family, among others.

The second bill, which passed 219-210, would extend the review period for background checks from three to 10 days. Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., introduced the legislation after a shooter killed nine people at a Charleston, S.C., church in 2015. The FBI said afterward that a background check examiner never saw the shooter’s previous arrest report because the wrong arresting agency was listed in state criminal history records, and the gun dealer was legally permitted to complete the transaction after three days. "

  1. Isn’t Biden’s plan targeting violent crime in general and not specifically inner city blacks?

  2. I’d be interested in hearing these.

  3. Impossible to answer without an agreed upon interpretation of the 2nd.

  4. Dunno.

  5. Dunno.

Ok fine. Try this one then.

1. Is there any evidence that expanded background checks will do anything? How many gun crimes have you heard of that would have been prevented through a better background check? Are the goons in the hood passing current background checks?


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No- start holding yourself accountable for what you post.

Explain to me why you think you can offer an opinion without the context of the subject about which one is being asked to offer an opinion.

Start showing evidence you actually want to have a serious discussion rather than your usual game of “You answer all my questions and don’t you dare demand I answer yours or hold myself accountable”.

Depends. What did some cities do differently than others?

Here in jersey. Murders were DOWN in Camden and Newark.

In other cities they were way up.

What did those two cities do differently than the rest?


Has reduced policing helped or hurt? It seems that the murder rate has increased as the policing has decreased.

Back in the day In NYC they started to arrest the subway turnstile jumpers. Violent crime was reduced because it turns out, these were the same people who were committing assaults, rapes and other nasty things. That policy is no longer in effect.

Do you think reduced policing has helped reduce crime?

Ok. How about this issue then?

1. Are we enforcing current gun laws effectivity? Or are we sending the offenders back to the hood to soon to victimize again?

Has eliminating cash bail and sending offenders right back to the hood helped or hurt?

Ok. So what has failed in NYC, LA, San Francisco, Baltimore, St. Louis, Chicago, Oakland, Baltimore, etc. What have they done wrong?

I think we need more data before coming to that conclusion.

AFTER I correct all of my personal flaw, THEN AND ONLY THEN will you see fit to comment on the topic.

You crack me up!


But on the upside, some day you’ll make a wonderful wife! :grin:


I think we have the data. And guess what, we have common sense too. Use yours. If you reduce policing crime increases. That’s actually not much of a reach. We though it would happen. Then it did happen.

There’s little point when the flaw prevents a serious discussion from happening.

Didn’t we reduce policing during the pandemic? I don’t think we can draw conclusions without more data from a period where there’s isn’t a pandemic like Covid. Correlation doesn’t equal causation.

Common sense isn’t dependable. At one point it was common sense that disasters were caused by displeased gods.

What crime are we prioritizing action against? Is it the day to day gun crimes or the mass shootings? It seems there would be different tactics used depending on the scenario.

I read the report on his “ZERO TOLERANCE” statement. It’s kabuki.

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Why aren’t the federal gun control laws that exist being enforced?
Or are law abiding citizens who legally procure firearms going to be the object of “tougher enforcement”?
Seems to me violent crimes committed by criminals, the overwhelming cause of violent gun crimes, illustrate the criminals don’t give a rats ass about “gun control laws”.

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From the linked article:

Instead of issuing warnings, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives will now seek to revoke dealer licenses on first offenses.

The move is intended to give new teeth to the enforcement arm of the ATF, which has languished under a previous policy that prioritized compliance over punishment.

That’s a problematic and disturbing way of looking at things.

This is going to make its way up the list of All Time Awesome Hannity Forum Quotes.