A whole thread of whataboutism? That has to be a first.
Iâm just worried about bidenâs kids. They could become drug users because of this.
Standards remain the same.

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Let us remember, Barack Obamaâs position on same sex marriage of just a decade ago would be considered unwoke and homophobic, and possibly hateful/bigoted/ by the SJWs today.
It wasnât right back then either.
Well, ten years from now things that we say today may be considered bigoted too , just sayin
Evolving standards and all.
Standards remain the same.
Obviously not. Have you seen any cartoons or read any books from 1930s ? Have you ever looked at a classified section from a southern newspaper prior to 1964 ? Everything is changing, all the time, even as we type right this very moment.

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Let us remember, Barack Obamaâs position on same sex marriage of just a decade ago would be considered unwoke and homophobic, and possibly hateful/bigoted/ by the SJWs today.
It wasnât right back then either.
Well, ten years from now things that we say today may be considered bigoted too , just sayin
Evolving standards and all.
Standards remain the same.
Obviously not. Have you seen any cartoons or read any books from 1930s ? Have you ever looked at a classified section from a southern newspaper prior to 1964 ? Everything is changing, all the time, even as we type right this very moment.
I did not use âstandardâ in the sense of what society currently understands to be moral.
Morality remains the same and only our understanding of it changes, either moving closer or further away from the truth.

Everything is changing, all the time, even as we type right this very moment.
Iâm in agreement with this.

How is this not racist??
1977: Biden Worried Busing Would Lead to a 'Racial Jungle'
"Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point,â Biden said shortly after making a plea for âorderly integration.â
And remember, it took biden 31 years after this comment to find the first âclean and articulateâ black man.
Between the segregationist biden and all of the slave-owning descendants, Iâm not sure how the dimocrats are going to choose a candidate. Not to mention the fake Indian.
Is this racist? Just checking because racism seems to be fluid these days.

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Samson_Corwell:
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Let us remember, Barack Obamaâs position on same sex marriage of just a decade ago would be considered unwoke and homophobic, and possibly hateful/bigoted/ by the SJWs today.
It wasnât right back then either.
Well, ten years from now things that we say today may be considered bigoted too , just sayin
Evolving standards and all.
Standards remain the same.
Obviously not. Have you seen any cartoons or read any books from 1930s ? Have you ever looked at a classified section from a southern newspaper prior to 1964 ? Everything is changing, all the time, even as we type right this very moment.
I did not use âstandardâ in the sense of what society currently understands to be moral.
Morality remains the same and only our understanding of it changes, either moving closer or further away from the truth.
Well, is there a consensus on what this universal never-changing morality is ?
In a way , I am inclined to agree that truth as it is isnât proprietary nor is it wavering or dynamic - itâs humansâ perception that is often cloudy. But that has very little to do with morality, at least in our definition of such.

Well, is there a consensus on what this universal never-changing morality is ?
Is there a consensus onâŚhow life originated from non-life? What causes headaches? How the universe will end (e.g., bigrip, big crunch)? If there isnât any consensus on these matters, then does that mean there is no fact of the matter as to what thse answers are?

But that has very little to do with morality, at least in our definition of such.
What do definitions have to do with it?

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Well, is there a consensus on what this universal never-changing morality is ?
Is there a consensus onâŚhow life originated from non-life? What causes headaches? How the universe will end (e.g., bigrip, big crunch)? If there isnât any consensus on these matters, then does that mean there is no fact of the matter as to what thse answers are?
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But that has very little to do with morality, at least in our definition of such.
What do definitions have to do with it?
If you are talking to me about absolute truth, I am perplexed as to how thatâs found its way into a conversation about Biden and whatever his misgivings about busing were in 1977.
So yes, there obviously is absolute truth and maybe we can have a conversation about that in a different forum sometime. This discussion is quite far from all that; what we were discussing is what is found acceptable and unacceptable in our imperfect society at a given time

Morality remains the same and only our understanding of it changes
Or acceptance. But that doesnât change your point, and I agree with it.
True, the DEMOCRAT Governor of Virginia dressed up in a klan costume and is still governor today.

I donât think Biden is a bad guy. Far from it. But these are the types of issues you are going to run into when you have a young, passionate base looking at front runners that are in their mid 70s with histories of saying/doing things that simply donât fly today.
â â â â â â â â â Didnât hold back Robert Byrd. Or Ted Kennedy.

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Let us remember, Barack Obamaâs position on same sex marriage of just a decade ago would be considered unwoke and homophobic, and possibly hateful/bigoted/ by the SJWs today.
It wasnât right back then either.
Well, ten years from now things that we say today may be considered bigoted too , just sayin
Evolving standards and all.
Standards remain the same.
No they donât.

Morality remains the same and only our understanding of it changes, either moving closer or further away from the truth.
Morality is a collection of emotions.