We are discussing costs. Please do try to focus.
Extraction versus contribution is a cost.
The plot is over there. Please do try and find it.
âContributionâ did not include costs.
What are you arguing? Extraction includes costs. Contribution would not. You subtract one from the other. Snd if you estimate one then your conclusion results in an estimate.
Of course it would. The claim is based on âdirectâ costs, not true costs.
Yes and their claim is still an estimate even as a direct cost.
âTrueâ costs ⌠subjective nonsense.
True costs are calculable. It takes a lot of effort.
No they are not because they have to fit the definition of true as set forth by the subjectivity of the person using that term. You have to first agree what true means and while thatâs possible someone else will come along snd say nah. Itâs happening in this very thread. Like right in this post.
Ok, complete costs.
Much of the cost of dealing with illegals is incurred at the local, county and state level.
Where is the cost of job loss? Of crime? Of closed communities? ESL education? Having everything in multiple language?
Just a few examples.
This thread is about refugees. Aka legal immigration.
The OP doesnât like the raising of this cap from 15,000 to 62,500.
Once again this is legal immigration.
He is a citizen who doesnât like this legal immigration policy set by POTUS
Itâs okay and he is entitled to his opinion but donât be anti immigration (legal) and not to get blowback from various posters who think legal immigrants enhance the United States not detract.
Allan
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Are there rules and criteria under which ârefugeesâ may be denied entry into the United States?
JWK
Of course there are. And POTUS will follow them to the letter of the law.
Allan
He already isnât.
Once again itâs the POTUS prerogative to raise (or lower) the cap on refugees.
He and he alone determines what our quota is for the year.
Elections have consequences.
POTUS controls the immigration policy for the United States and is given wide leeway in the enforcement of the rules.
Looks at trump and his travel ban.
Went to court and SCOTUS ruled in his favor.
Allan
That there is a âcapâ at all belies your whole argument.
But the subject of the thread is not about âAnti-immigrationâ.
Itâs about a unregulated open border policy destructive to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens, and American citizens paying the price for the current suicidal Administrationâs open border policy.
I know you love to constantly switch the subject and distract posters from actually discussing the subject of the thread, but hey, I too would do the same thing if I were intent on hiding and putting something over on the American people.
So tell us, how is filling the United States with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of Mexico and Central America advancing the general welfare of the United States and her citizens?
JWK
There is no better way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries.
Oh sure it is, if you donât think so. We will agree to disagree on the issue.
Allan
Please link to that provision in the Constitution under which that power is delegated to him. I always was under the impression Congress, and only Congress, is vested with power to legislate.
Aside from that I believe our president primary job is to advance the general welfare of the United States and her citizens. So, please explain, how is filling the United States with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of Mexico and Central America advancing the general welfare of the United States and her citizens?
JWK
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of illegal entrants who have invaded Americaâs borders. LINK
Look at question number 2 and the answer.
Who determines the number of refugee admissions?
The President of the United States. The number of refugees accepted to the United States each year is set by the President in consultation with Congress that must occur before October 1 each year.
Allan
