Are employers of illegal workers liable for crimes that the workers commit?

Specific example: Can the employer of Cristhian Rivera, the “undocumented immigrant”, arrested for the killing of Mollie Tibbetts face civil damages for the death?

Hiring someone without proper documentation is a crime under federal law, so the farm that hired Rivera can face criminal penalties. Civil penalties do not require the same standard of evidence.

For background see:
Yarrabee Farms co-owner and manager Dane Lang clarified Wednesday afternoon that the farm did not use a federal E-Verify check on suspect Cristhian Rivera, despite the company’s claim earlier in the day that it did.

Of course not. Is your employer liable for your actions outside of work hours? If you choose to go throw back a few beers at a bar after work, get plastered, and cause a crash that kills some people, how is your employer responsible for that?

Now, they are definitely responsible for whatever crimes or penalties come with employing someone who should not be legally working here, but that is as far as it goes.

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The argument would be that the killer would not have been in the US to begin with the employer had not violated federal law.

Case by case basis. If the Rivera employers knew he was here illegally, then no, they don’t bear responsibility for his heinous act of murder he perpetrated on his own and his own time.

I can’t imagine them, his employers, being liable for any civil suit. The Federal government has more culpability in that in my opinion.

That argument could certainly be made, I don’t think any reasoned juror would buy it.

Here is a recent case that shows otherwise:

If the law is not clear on this issue, should it be changed to allows civil suits against employers related to actions by illegal employees?

Not at all the same. But certainly reflective of the “case by case” I mentioned and what i understood.

There are many cases of employers being liable for damages for crimes committed by employees against customers.

If there is evidence that the Tibbetts was a customer of the farm does that change the equation?

Can a case be brought in state court or does it have to go into federal court?

My observation is that civil penalties may be a much bigger deterrent than criminal enforcement for employers who ignore federal employment law.

the case you quoted the supervisor used his position to force an employee to attend a wedding where he murdered her…

did mollie work with her murderer or were they both employed at the same place of business?

Is the centgov liable for it?

No.

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No, unless it was on the job.

IF the illegal status of the alleged murderer is held up as a VERY BIG aspect of this case, the business that hired him YEARS ago and never confirmed his immigrant status should be held responsible. After all, his illegality (if true) is the keystone of the RW frenzy over him…is it not?

There is also “negligent hiring” liability:

The key to most negligent hiring and retention cases is providing employees with access to potential victims without doing the necessary examination of the employees.

In the Iowa case, the employee arguably had access to the victim as a result of negligence by the employer. That appears to be sufficient to establish liability in other cases.

Here is some more background about “negligent hiring”:

I was actually going to give an example where I felt an employer might have some liability, say if they put the employee behind the wheel of a company vehicle knowing he was not licensed and he killed someone with that vehicle.

Yes, I assume that a company could be sued for an accident by an unlicensed employee in a company car even if that accident was after working hours.

Yeah, that’s an easy answer. Get the employers for employing them.

This is a fun slope to slide down. Watch out, it gets slippery!

The intent of the law against employment of people here illegally was to reduce the incentive to come here.

Employers get the benefit of cheaper labor by employing people illegally. It makes sense that they should face civil liability for their actions.

tell Urban Meyers that…