Just listened to some leftist saying we must not blame this on the guy being mentally ill. The new leftist talking point is that the shooter did this because he was bullied by white racist.
Laws grant power to states to prosecute and confine - that’s why we have laws. The threat of that power is and always has been a deterrent to criminal activity in some circumstances (not all). We have laws regarding the acquisition of various goods/services in society, meant to help ensure/protect our citizens. Does that mean its 100% fail proof? Of course not.
But hey, if criminals don’t follow laws anyway, what’s the point? I guess all these voters id laws being pushed by Republicans are pointless, cause hey, criminals can just print a fake id if they want. Criminals will be criminals! Right? They will find a way!
Again, if you want to make a pure constitutional argument that is valid. But this whole “criminals don’t follow laws” excuse is pretty weak as an excuse to do nothing.
If murder was legal do you think we would have less or more of it?
If all you have is silly semantic arguments to deflect from the heart of the question, then clearly you’re losing. How about this: if murder was legal, do you think more people would kill each other?
That’s not the point. It’s very strange how conservatives have the 2nd amendment on a silver platter, yet continue to pedal trash arguments that have nothing to do with it.
The conversation was clearly about whether or not regulation and laws over access to goods and services can be deterrents to societal harm. On top of that, humans are a diverse group of creatures. I have never had the urge, but I don’t know how you could deny some people have had the urge to commit murder or shoot up some building, but would rather have not faced the consequences of going to jail. There’s a reason that murderers try to cover their tracks. And if humans are capable of murder, they are capable of having an urge to murder.
Just stick with the 2nd amendment and you’ll do much better.
If an amendment was passed to overturn the 2nd, would you use this same semantic argument to claim no one’s “rights” were taken away because the law no longer says you have rights? Your “right” to bear arms is also “defined by the law”. If the right to bear arms is God given and immutable then surely the right to not be murdered also is - otherwise what’s the point of the 2nd? Hey as long as we can simply declare “that’s the law” I must be right.
Republicans really just need to stick with 2nd amendment and quit embarrassing themselves with child like arguments against the basic foundations of why we have laws and institutions to enforce these laws. Funny how many of them fail to apply these same generics against drug laws, voter ID laws, etc.
I considered myself a moderate on the Second Amendment until “Defund the Police” became a nationwide Democratic Party initiative and their politicians showed zero interest in holding their violent rioters accountable. I didn’t buy any grenade launchers, but Democrats encouraged me to finally jump off the fence and buy my first firearm.