yes. that does not mean or say he has any special authority to do so himself
that is you saying thats what that means.
yes. that does not mean or say he has any special authority to do so himself
that is you saying thats what that means.
Auto129:
Of course. Conditions are largely still the same as they were when the shutdown began. Cases and deaths are still increasing and there arenât enough resources to deal with them.
that is incorrect
the new cases have leveled off
only 104 people have died out of a population of over 4 million
do you have any data or info suggesting they canât deal with this?
July 4thâŚwhat the hell? Seriously?
Of course. Conditions are largely still the same as they were when the shutdown began. Cases and deaths are still increasing and there arenât enough resources to deal with them.
that is incorrect
the new cases have leveled off
only 104 people have died out of a population of over 4 million
do you have any data or info suggesting they canât deal with this?
No, itâs pretty apparent that they can deal with it under shutdown conditions. Thatâs why the order was extended.
He listened to the âscienceâ delivered by Fauci from the get go and yet he still canât please the lying MSM and the seditious POS Dems.
NoâŚitâs pointing out that the reason it was posted was to absolve the President from any of the decision-making authority.
So the âDemocratsâ can still be blamed.
This thread is also once again displaying Doublethink on full display.
â65,000 deaths is a success because if President Trump hadnât acted decisively, 2 million could have diedâ.
âDeep State Fauci, the Dems and the compliant media caused us to overreact. We didnât need to do thisâ.
Many Trump supporters hold both these contradictory thoughts in their heads at the same time.
Itâs breathtaking how easy it has been to get people to believe contradictory ideas.
thinkingman:
Auto129:
Of course. Conditions are largely still the same as they were when the shutdown began. Cases and deaths are still increasing and there arenât enough resources to deal with them.
that is incorrect
the new cases have leveled off
only 104 people have died out of a population of over 4 million
do you have any data or info suggesting they canât deal with this?
July 4thâŚwhat the hell? Seriously?
july 6 actuallyâŚ
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He listened to the âscienceâ delivered by Fauci from the get go and yet he still canât please the lying MSM and the seditious POS Dems.
right. are they not ridiculous?
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BonAppetit:
President Trump gifted America a booming economy. There were jobs for all, including the downtrodden demographics that had long been ignored by the arrogant Democratic establishment. The economy was robust and accelerating ahead with the momentum of a runaway freight train.
But enter the Democrats. The left will never let a crisis to waste, and the Wuhan Flu has been no exception. Theyâve wrecked Americaâs economy just to spite Trump and to give an advantage to their senile groper, Joe Biden. The Democrats and thuggish Governors like Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsome have smothered the economy and put tens of millions in the unemployment line.
America is now closed for business - shame on you, Democrats.
Good summary of the Republican Talking Points for the 2020 election.
But just to be clear,. when President Trump recommended national âshelter in placeâ guidelines on March 16, are we to assume he acted as a Democrat on that day? Because if he acted as a Republican, your thesis is in error.
he acted on the advice of Fauci et al, which was a mistake.
Fauci shut down the US and state governors to this length, not Trump
sorry i know you wanted to slip that in there
Fauci has the authority to shut down the US? Who knew.
no one claimed he had the âauthorityâ
The poster claimed Fauci âshut downâ the United States. That implies authority. Of course rather than quibble over a word you could acknowledge the absurdity of the notion that âFauci shut down the United States.â
it only implies that in the minds of those building up âhereâs what the poster is sayingâ narratives to favor the side of an argument
this is just what happens on ânewsâ interesting
The poster claimed Fauci âshut downâ the United States. The only one twisting things to get away from that is you.
yes. that does not mean or say he has any special authority to do so himself
that is you saying thats what that means.
Actually, I wasnât the one who imputed âauthorityâ to Fauci in this thread. My first comment on it was that âauthorityâ was an assumption. You have now posted several times that this was assumption, a point I long ago conceded.
What are you going on about. My post was that the notion that Dr. Fauci shut down the United States was absurd. To get this discussion back on track, a simple question: Do you agree that âDr. Fauci shut down the United States.â?
Auto129:
Of course. Conditions are largely still the same as they were when the shutdown began. Cases and deaths are still increasing and there arenât enough resources to deal with them.
thinkingman:
that is incorrect
the new cases have leveled off
only 104 people have died out of a population of over 4 million
do you have any data or info suggesting they canât deal with this?
No, itâs pretty apparent that they can deal with it under shutdown conditions. Thatâs why the order was extended.
yes. it is apparent they can
so why extend? why out to two months and not just one then reassess?
see what happens when you give more power to raging leftists?
thinkingman:
H_Arendt:
thinkingman:
H_Arendt:
thinkingman:
NJBob:
thinkingman:
H_Arendt:
BonAppetit:
President Trump gifted America a booming economy. There were jobs for all, including the downtrodden demographics that had long been ignored by the arrogant Democratic establishment. The economy was robust and accelerating ahead with the momentum of a runaway freight train.
But enter the Democrats. The left will never let a crisis to waste, and the Wuhan Flu has been no exception. Theyâve wrecked Americaâs economy just to spite Trump and to give an advantage to their senile groper, Joe Biden. The Democrats and thuggish Governors like Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsome have smothered the economy and put tens of millions in the unemployment line.
America is now closed for business - shame on you, Democrats.
Good summary of the Republican Talking Points for the 2020 election.
But just to be clear,. when President Trump recommended national âshelter in placeâ guidelines on March 16, are we to assume he acted as a Democrat on that day? Because if he acted as a Republican, your thesis is in error.
he acted on the advice of Fauci et al, which was a mistake.
Fauci shut down the US and state governors to this length, not Trump
sorry i know you wanted to slip that in there
Fauci has the authority to shut down the US? Who knew.
no one claimed he had the âauthorityâ
The poster claimed Fauci âshut downâ the United States. That implies authority. Of course rather than quibble over a word you could acknowledge the absurdity of the notion that âFauci shut down the United States.â
it only implies that in the minds of those building up âhereâs what the poster is sayingâ narratives to favor the side of an argument
this is just what happens on ânewsâ interesting
The poster claimed Fauci âshut downâ the United States. The only one twisting things to get away from that is you.
yes. that does not mean or say he has any special authority to do so himself
that is you saying thats what that means.
Actually, I wasnât the one who imputed âauthorityâ to Fauci in this thread. My first comment on it was that âauthorityâ was an assumption. You have now posted several times that this was assumption, a point I long ago conceded.
What are you going on about. My post was that the notion that Dr. Fauci shut down the United States was absurd. To get this discussion back on track, a simple question: Do you agree that âDr. Fauci shut down the United States.â?
that is no longer the discussion
youâre just beating it to death
yes. it is apparent they can
so why extend? why out to two months and not just one then reassess?
see what happens when you give more power to raging leftists?
Extend because the new cases have leveled off and only 104 people have died out of a population of over 4 million. Why change whatâs working?
thinkingman:
yes. it is apparent they can
so why extend? why out to two months and not just one then reassess?
see what happens when you give more power to raging leftists?
Extend because the new cases have leveled off and only 104 people have died out of a population of over 4 million. Why change whatâs working?
lol because it isnt necessary, theres no data to support that it helps, and itâs destroying the economy which she, a rabid leftist, is surely going to blame on trump
remember this was all just to âflatten the curveâ
curves been flat. now its all about november
He listened to the âscienceâ delivered by Fauci from the get go and yet he still canât please the lying MSM and the seditious POS Dems.
Only a weak, intellectually insecure person would have fallen for what Fauci was pushing, donât you agree?
And who cares what the lying MSM and the seditious POS Dems think? Are their opinions important to you?
A real leader would have long gotten beyond these pathetic displays of weakness.
The buck always stops way over there.
Two more months??
Iâve been ok so far with everyone minding the rules but this is â â â â â â â ridiculous. I didnât buy into the political theories of this until just these last few days.
Some pols are overreaching big time.
lol because it isnt necessary, theres no data to support that it helps
But new cases have leveled off. What caused that?
thinkingman:
lol because it isnt necessary, theres no data to support that it helps
But new cases have leveled off. What caused that?
herd immunity is my guess
Two more months??
Iâve been ok so far with everyone minding the rules but this is â â â â â â â ridiculous. I didnât buy into the political theories of this until just these last few days.
Some pols are overreaching big time.
exactly. nothing justifies this, and i hope it gets the attention of AG
dont underestimate the petty political strategies of leftists like this gov
Ok. Well, thatâs a nice guess. Do you have any supporting data?
No lefties here believes this is an overreach? Iâm asking because aside from snipping at each other I canât see if thereâs actual disagreement with that decision.
Come onâŚtwo more months?